[gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm 
using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) 
and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those with 
recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.

1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you 
found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands

2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've 
crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores.

Thank you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Mark Knecht]

Hi Brett

On 1/8/06, Brett I. Holcomb <brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm
> using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well)
> and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those with
> recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
>
> 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you
> found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands

I have no experience with SATA cards so this may be useless info. I've
used Promise SATA on a 2 year old machine at my dad's house, NVidia
SATA in my AMD64 machine and ATI SATA in my Pundit-R Myth frontend
machines. Of the three the ATI has worked pretty badly in terms of
performance. All have been reliable so far.

>
> 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've
> crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores.

I'm at wit's end about Seagate drives. I bought 3 80GB Seagates from
Newegg. The produced all sorts of strange messages in my dmesg files
and I sent them back. This was on the ATI Pundit-R machines. I've used
WD SATA drives in the other machines, 80GB and 250GB. They have worked
really well.

Again, it's pretty limited info and probably not very useful in terms
of buying an adapter card, etc.

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Thanks, Mark, for the info.  Sounds like I need to avoid ATI <G>.  I'm in a 
position where I have a motherboard that doesn't support SATA so I can either 
go IDE or SATA and going SATA appears to be the future way.  That means I 
have to add a card.

Wat the Promise used on a Linux system?

Sounds like I'll pass on Seagate - we used to say the made IDE and DOA drives 
<G>.

Thanks.

On Sunday 08 January 2006 21:07, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi Brett
>
> On 1/8/06, Brett I. Holcomb <brettholcomb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up
> > too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those
> > with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> >
> > 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> > you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
>
> I have no experience with SATA cards so this may be useless info. I've
> used Promise SATA on a 2 year old machine at my dad's house, NVidia
> SATA in my AMD64 machine and ATI SATA in my Pundit-R Myth frontend
> machines. Of the three the ATI has worked pretty badly in terms of
> performance. All have been reliable so far.
>
> > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've
> > crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> > Ultrastores.
>
> I'm at wit's end about Seagate drives. I bought 3 80GB Seagates from
> Newegg. The produced all sorts of strange messages in my dmesg files
> and I sent them back. This was on the ATI Pundit-R machines. I've used
> WD SATA drives in the other machines, 80GB and 250GB. They have worked
> really well.
>
> Again, it's pretty limited info and probably not very useful in terms
> of buying an adapter card, etc.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[kashani]

Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm 
> using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) 
> and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those with 
> recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.

Seeing as that's a real RAID card, complete with an onboard cache of up 
to 256MB RAM, I'd try to replace it with something as good or better. 
That qualification pretty much eliminates 90% of the SATA cards out 
there. Most of them are consumer grade with no caching and usually no 
RAID processing since they're doing it in the driver.

I've had good luck with 3ware cards and whatever OEM Adaptec AAC RAID 
card Dell includes in their machines these days.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

I'd love to keep this card (it has 256MB of ram, too) but the problem is that 
it's running six IBM/Hitachi Ultrastore drives - all of which are useless.  
They keep going bad and even though they are under warranty and get replaced 
I can't build a system that keeps working for any period of time.  
Unfortunately, SCSI drives are expensive and I can't afford them at this 
time.  So I'm looking at going to something more affordable that will let me 
run.  This is a home workstation although I would like to do some audio work 
with it.



On Sunday 08 January 2006 22:24, kashani wrote:
> Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up
> > too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those
> > with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
>
> Seeing as that's a real RAID card, complete with an onboard cache of up
> to 256MB RAM, I'd try to replace it with something as good or better.
> That qualification pretty much eliminates 90% of the SATA cards out
> there. Most of them are consumer grade with no caching and usually no
> RAID processing since they're doing it in the driver.
>
> I've had good luck with 3ware cards and whatever OEM Adaptec AAC RAID
> card Dell includes in their machines these days.
>
> kashani

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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Bill Roberts]

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I just bought this sata controller:

SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid

Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata
cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata
drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings.

CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y

Good luck.

Bill Roberts

On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm 
> using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) 
> and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those with 
> recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> 
> 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you 
> found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> 
> 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've 
> crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Bill Roberts]

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Sata drives I am thrilled with are:

Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3300831AS 300GB 7200 RPM

At $131, seems to be good value for money. Quiet, good reputation.

Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 

I have two of these set up in software RAID0. Lightening fast, quiet given
the speed. Expensive, but in my opinion, worth it. I see they have come out
with 150GB. I'd better hold on to my pocketbook.

Bill Roberts

On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm 
> using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) 
> and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those with 
> recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> 
> 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you 
> found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> 
> 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've 
> crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[maxim wexler]

> 
> 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable
> and work well.  I've 
> crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience
> with the Ultrastores.

Western Digital works OK for me.

in my .config:

CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=y


		
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

That is very nice to know.  I like the price <G>.   Thank you for this and the 
drive info.

On Monday 09 January 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote:
> I just bought this sata controller:
>
> SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid
>
> Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata
> cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata
> drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings.
>
> CONFIG_SCSI=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bill Roberts
>
> On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up
> > too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those
> > with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> >
> > 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> > you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> >
> > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've
> > crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> > Ultrastores.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brett I. Holcomb
> > --
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Thanks.  I'll look at them.  Anyone want any used IBM 36 Gig SCSI Ultra 3 
drives <G>.

On Monday 09 January 2006 11:38, maxim wexler wrote:
> > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable
> > and work well.  I've
> > crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience
> > with the Ultrastores.
>
> Western Digital works OK for me.
>
> in my .config:
>
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=y
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Well, I have this controller - it arrived today.  Did you have to do anything 
to get I've booted the LiveCD and the controller is listed in lspci.  
However, EVMS doesn't show any volumes nor does anything show up under scsi 
in /dev/  I haven't found anything on the list or forum that has helped yet

Thanks.

On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote:
> I just bought this sata controller:
>
> SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid
>
> Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata
> cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata
> drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings.
>
> CONFIG_SCSI=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bill Roberts
>
> On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up
> > too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those
> > with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> >
> > 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> > you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> >
> > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've
> > crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> > Ultrastores.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brett I. Holcomb
> > --
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Got it.  I had to disable the onboard IDE - the "docs" indicated this 
controller would coexist with the on-board but evidently it doesn't.  I'll do 
more research later.  hopefully I can use one IDE on the motherboard so I can 
have my DVDs on two separate busses.


On Wednesday February 1 2006 23:53, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> Well, I have this controller - it arrived today.  Did you have to do
> anything to get I've booted the LiveCD and the controller is listed in
> lspci. However, EVMS doesn't show any volumes nor does anything show up
> under scsi in /dev/  I haven't found anything on the list or forum that has
> helped yet
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote:
> > I just bought this sata controller:
> >
> > SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid
> >
> > Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one
> > sata cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on
> > the sata drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings.
> >
> > CONFIG_SCSI=y
> > CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
> > CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y
> > CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Bill Roberts
> >
> > On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding
> > > up too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the
> > > those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> > > you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> > >
> > > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. 
> > > I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> > > Ultrastores.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Brett I. Holcomb
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[Brett I. Holcomb]

What kind of motherboard do you have?  I have two older boards that it just 
doesn't work on.  I have a Tyan Tiger MPX and an ASUS A7M266-D.  On both I 
can install the OS by booting from the LiveCD on one system and using XP Pro 
on the other system.  The drives are seen and the install goes well.  
However, when I reboot and try and start the OS there is no drive.  In the 
BIOS I see no entries for the drives or Syba.  I see no messages during boot 
up from the card either.

Any tricks to get it working?

On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote:
> I just bought this sata controller:
>
> SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid
>
> Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata
> cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata
> drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings.
>
> CONFIG_SCSI=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y
> CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bill Roberts
>
> On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan     , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
> > I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID
> > (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up
> > too well) and am looking at going with SATA.  Some input from the those
> > with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated.
> >
> > 1.  SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> > you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands
> >
> > 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.  I've
> > crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> > Ultrastores.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Brett I. Holcomb
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives

[jarry]

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Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

> 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have
> you found to work? Is Promise any good?  What are some good brands

Personally I could not install gentoo 2005.1-r1 on ASUS A8N-VM mobo
(southbridge nVidia 410 MCP, + northbridge GF6100 graphics).
Loading sata_nv always freezes system. Probably too old kernel...

I also tried "experimental" install-amd64-universal-2005-12-11.iso
(as advised in gentoo-forum). This time booting was without problems,
both network as well as sata-drives were recognised. I could even
partition both sata-drives, and create /dev/md's arrays...

Problems came later, when formating (mke2fs -j /dev/md*):
I got random sync-errors causing kernel-panic. I repeated it a few
times, always sync-error, but on random places of disk (sometimes while
formating 1st partition, sometimes while formating 4th partition).
I could never get past formating all 8 partitions, so I gave it up...

> 2.  Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well.
> I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the
> Ultrastores.

In my story, I have tried it with 2x Seagate 7200.9, but I still think
problem is mobo/chipset. I tested drives with Seagates' sea-tools
utility, full test took ~4 hours (2x 160GB). No errors found. Moreover,
I could install WinXP on this computer without any problem. Sad, but
I've heard NVidia is not so open to kernel-dev to give them enough
details about its new chipsets...

That's my experience with gentoo & sata drives/controler. I'l try
to get some VIA-based mobo (K8T890) to see if it works better...

Jarry

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