[gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[John J. Foster]

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Good evening,

I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display hidden
folders and/or files. Also, in Firefox the only columns available in the
File dialog boxes are Name and Modified. I know size was there in 1.0.7.
These apps are emerged as follows:

//garbanzo/home/festus > emerge -pv mozilla-firefox openoffice

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1-r1  -debug -gnome
+ipv6 +java -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] app-office/openoffice-2.0.1  -binfilter +curl -eds
+gnome -gtk +java +kde +ldap -mozilla +xml2 0 kB

Can anyone help me out?

Thanks,
festus

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Holly Bostick]

John J. Foster schreef:
> Good evening,
> 
> I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
> Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display hidden
> folders and/or files. 

For firefox, if a Save dialog, select "Browse for other folders", then
right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list on
the left-- and select "Show hidden files". For the Open dialog, you
don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).

There does not seem to be a global setting for OO.o. Of course, if you
know the filename, you can just type it once in the correct folder; this
also works for folders. In the case of a folder, this will take you to
the folder, where you can then select the file.

However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink from
the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but without the
preceding ".", that way the symlink won't be hidden.

> Also, in Firefox the only columns available in the
> File dialog boxes are Name and Modified. I know size was there in 1.0.7.

Yes, apparently Name and Modified are the only columns available. Things
change. 1.5 is a long way from 1.0.7. Myself, I don't need the filesize
in a web-browser save dialog (I find Modified date much more useful),
but everybody's different.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Joseph]

On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 02:59 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
> > I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
> > Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display
> hidden
> > folders and/or files. 
> 
> For firefox, if a Save dialog, select "Browse for other folders", then
> right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list
> on
> the left-- and select "Show hidden files". For the Open dialog, you
> don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
> it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).
> 
> There does not seem to be a global setting for OO.o. Of course, if you
> know the filename, you can just type it once in the correct folder;
> this
> also works for folders. In the case of a folder, this will take you to
> the folder, where you can then select the file.

Yes, it is there for OO as well.
When you click on Open File, the window will have few icons, click on
the available icons and you will find it :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[John J. Foster]

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On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:59:19AM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
> John J. Foster schreef:
> > Good evening,
> > 
> > I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on both
> > Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to display hidden
> > folders and/or files. 
> 
> For firefox, if a Save dialog, select "Browse for other folders", then
> right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the folder list on
> the left-- and select "Show hidden files". For the Open dialog, you
> don't have to browse, obviously. Setting will remain until you revoke
> it, though possibly not across browser sessions (not sure).

Thanks, that works fine. Even for the "Open File", which I'm not sure why 
you wouldn't think I'd have to browse.
> 
> However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink from
> the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but without the
> preceding ".", that way the symlink won't be hidden.
> 
Yeah, but that's really lame that I'd have to do that. OOo can be so
advanced on some things, and so incredibly stupid on others.

Thanks agin,
festus

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I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer gods than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, 
you will understand why I dismiss yours.
                                                    ...Stephen F Roberts

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Philip Webb]

060224 John J. Foster wrote:
> On my KDE desktop in the File Open dialog boxes on both Firefox & OOo
> I can't find where to tell them to display hidden folders/files.

I'm using Firefox 1.5 & OO 2.0 on KDE 3.5.1 :
for Firefox, R-click on the actual dir/file list & "show hidden files";
for OO, ditto & follow "View" & ditto or toggle with  F8 .

Generally, when you can't find something, R-click often brings up a list.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Holly Bostick]

John J. Foster schreef:
> On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 02:59:19AM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
>> John J. Foster schreef:
>>> Good evening,
>>> 
>>> I'm running a KDE desktop and in the File Open dialog boxes on
>>> both Firefox & OOo I can't seem to find where to tell them to
>>> display hidden folders and/or files.
>> For firefox, if a Save dialog, select "Browse for other folders",
>> then right-click inside the file list on the right  -- not the
>> folder list on the left-- and select "Show hidden files". For the
>> Open dialog, you don't have to browse, obviously.
> 
> Thanks, that works fine. Even for the "Open File", which I'm not sure
> why you wouldn't think I'd have to browse.

Sorry, it was late for me and I was typing fast. What I meant is that
for the Save dialog, you have to open the "Browse" section of the dialog
window by opening "Browse for other folders", so showing hidden files is
two steps, but the Open dialog begins with a Browse window, so you only
have one step.

>> However, if you do this a lot, you might consider making a symlink
>> from the hidden folder or file to a link of the same name, but
>> without the preceding ".", that way the symlink won't be hidden.
>> 
> Yeah, but that's really lame that I'd have to do that. OOo can be so 
> advanced on some things, and so incredibly stupid on others.

Lame? I dunno. Is it 'lamer' than having to type a path or filename in
the dialog? Or 'lamer' than Joseph's suggestion (which doesn't work for
me using OO.o-2.02_rc2):

Joseph schreef:
> 
> Yes, it is there for OO as well. When you click on Open File, the
> window will have few icons, click on the available icons and you will
> find it :-)
> 

In my Open dialog (OOWriter), there are 3 button icons: Up one level in
the filetree, Make new folder, and Home. This is exactly what I would
expect, and these buttons do exactly what I would expect. There is no
context menu for them, and if the menu exists on the main window, I
don't see it, and I didn't find it in the Preferences screen last night.

I don't know about you, but to me, one 10-second task (making a symlink
to a folder which is likely not hidden by my choice but by default, such
as config files in my /home folder which I often edit), and afterwards
knowing that it's /done/ and I don't have to worry about it any more, is
much less 'lame' than having to search for 10 minutes for a stupid
setting in the program in question (Firefox, as a GNOME program, puts
the setting one place, Krusader, as a KDE program, puts the setting
another place, and OO.o, as an independent program, puts it $DEITY knows
where, if the setting exists at all).

But perhaps you have different needs (as a single home user, I don't
particularly have any need to hide any files from possible abuse, so
while I may work with hidden files often, they aren't
"mission-critical", voluntarily hidden files).

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Peter Ruskin]

On Saturday 25 February 2006 08:07, Philip Webb wrote:
> 060224 John J. Foster wrote:
> > On my KDE desktop in the File Open dialog boxes on both Firefox
> > & OOo I can't find where to tell them to display hidden
> > folders/files.
>
> I'm using Firefox 1.5 & OO 2.0 on KDE 3.5.1 :
> for Firefox, R-click on the actual dir/file list & "show hidden
> files"; for OO, ditto & follow "View" & ditto or toggle with  F8
> .
>
> Generally, when you can't find something, R-click often brings up
> a list.
>
Thanks to a recent thread here (which I can't find now), I'm happily 
using the KDE file dialogue with firefox and mozilla.

See 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087&highlight=filepicker+kde

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[Glenn Enright]

On Sunday 26 February 2006 01:55, Peter Ruskin wrote:
>
> See
> 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087&highlight=filepicker+kde

nice site. opens up a few posibilities too. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox & OOo oddness

[John J. Foster]

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On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:55:05PM +0000, Peter Ruskin wrote:

> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=384087&highlight=filepicker+kde
> 
Thank you, thank you, thank you - just what I wanted

festus

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I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer gods than
you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, 
you will understand why I dismiss yours.
                                                    ...Stephen F Roberts

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