From: "John Jolet" <john@jolet.net>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:20:30 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060217221946.392F418033@flower.jolet.net> (raw)
the problem is they both have valid points. in this,as in nearly all aspects of unix administration, there is not a single right answer.
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From: "Patrick Börjesson"<psycho@rift.ath.cx>
Sent: 2/17/06 4:15:08 PM
To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org"<gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?
First, I can't really understand why either one of you two won't fully
explain your reasonings when going against the other. It helps noone.
On 2006-02-17 19:04, Hemmann, Volker Armin uttered these thoughts:
> On Friday 17 February 2006 07:33, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > > On Thursday 16 February 2006 20:40, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > >> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > >> > On Thursday 16 February 2006 17:18, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> > >> >> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Why should he make /tmp noexec,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Security precaution.
> > >> >
> > >> > if you have 10+ users with access to the box. But a workstation,
> > >> > without even sshd running, it is not needed.
Of course, if you have a system with _no_ services running (including
apache, sshd and so on), or a firewall that blocks every and all
incoming connection attempt, then for someone to access /tmp without
having physical access to the system (in which case you're pretty much
screwed anyhow) is, as far as I know, impossible.=20
This doesn't take into account client-side exploits; because with these
the exploiting code has access to whatever resources the user running
the client has, including writing to whatever areas that the user has.=20
> > >> "needed" - What's "needed", anyway?
> > >>
> > >> > And hey, why should /tmp noexec save you from anything?
> > >>
> > >> Because it does.
> > >
> > > so? how?
> >
> > Think, you might find out. What does noexec do, hm?
> >
> > Even *you* might find out...
> >
> > Well... If I think about it... No, you're too clueless
> > to find out.
> >
> > Hint 1: "noexec" nowadays makes it impossible to execute
> > programs stored on that filesystem.
>=20
> I know, but it won't save you from anything.
> After a user got in, he is a user. And every user has a place with write=
=20
> permission (if he is user apache/httpd he has lots of places, where he ca=
n=20
> store code). Outside of /tmp.
Where?
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2006-02-17 22:20 John Jolet [this message]
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2006-02-23 11:07 [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition? joaoemanuel1981
2006-02-23 12:04 ` jarry
2006-02-23 13:55 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:05 ` John Jolet
2006-02-23 14:30 ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 16:03 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-23 16:12 ` Dave Nebinger
2006-02-23 18:07 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-23 19:38 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-23 14:45 ` Abhay Kedia
2006-02-16 12:19 Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 12:34 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-16 12:42 ` Neil Bothwick
[not found] ` <7ae6f8f0602160450i3d0b3973x437e82ff45c8606e@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-16 12:51 ` Izar Ilun
2006-02-16 13:06 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 13:47 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:39 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 17:46 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:00 ` kashani
2006-02-16 20:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 20:24 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 7:52 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 9:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17 1:59 ` Zac Slade
2006-02-17 9:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:19 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:45 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:34 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 16:18 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 18:46 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 19:40 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:12 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 21:07 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 23:37 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-17 6:02 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 7:14 ` Uwe Thiem
2006-02-16 20:23 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 6:33 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 18:04 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:19 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-17 18:38 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 19:18 ` Benno Schulenberg
2006-02-17 19:41 ` Daniel da Veiga
2006-02-17 22:15 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 18:35 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:15 ` Patrick Börjesson
2006-02-17 23:48 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-17 19:52 ` Maarten
2006-02-17 21:35 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-17 22:36 ` Rumen Yotov
2006-02-17 22:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2006-02-16 14:58 ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:14 ` Robert Crawford
2006-02-16 15:36 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 14:47 ` jarry
2006-02-16 13:03 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 14:14 ` apn
2006-02-16 14:51 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:04 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:15 ` John Jolet
2006-02-16 15:29 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:10 ` jarry
2006-02-16 15:30 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 16:09 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 16:21 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 20:58 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 15:33 ` Martin Eisenhardt
2006-02-16 17:46 ` Jarry
2006-02-16 18:13 ` Alexander Skwar
2006-02-16 15:50 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 13:29 ` Emanuele Morozzi
2006-02-16 14:22 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 15:02 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:48 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2006-02-16 18:40 ` Richard Fish
2006-02-16 15:33 ` Alexander Skwar
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