[gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Meino Christian Cramer]

Hello,

 this is my frist mail to this list.

 I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
 know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
 I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.

 But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name, 
 I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
 other one.

 So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?

 What should I take?

 Another question: To what gentoo-mailinglist I should mail questions
 concerning hardware ?

 Kind regards,
 Meino

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Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 2/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>  this is my frist mail to this list.
>
>  I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
>  know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
>  I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.
>
>  But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name,
>  I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
>  other one.

Why not simply use the "current" link?
I don't know exactly why it is smaller, but you should have no
problems with it... As the team said, its just a media refresh with a
few bug fixes.

>
>  So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?

A quick google search returned:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/20051121-release-2005.1-r1.xml

>
>  What should I take?

I would advice the "r1", that is the current release...

>
>  Another question: To what gentoo-mailinglist I should mail questions
>  concerning hardware ?

I'm not sure, what kind of questions? Compatibility issues?

>
>  Kind regards,
>  Meino
>
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>


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Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Meino Christian Cramer]

From: Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:47:38 -0200

> On 2/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> >  this is my frist mail to this list.
> >
> >  I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
> >  know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
> >  I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.
> >
> >  But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name,
> >  I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
> >  other one.
> 
> Why not simply use the "current" link?

  I would have done this already...if the image size would have been
  more similiar...

> I don't know exactly why it is smaller, but you should have no
> problems with it... As the team said, its just a media refresh with a
> few bug fixes.
> 
> >
> >  So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?
> 
> A quick google search returned:
> http://www.gentoo.org/news/20051121-release-2005.1-r1.xml

  Ohuuuuh...("flat hand onto myfronthead"-effect)..I only used the
  "search" button of the gentoo forum and found nothing
  appropiate...Google didnt came into my mind.  Sorry....and thank you
  for the link, Daniel.

  (still the question of the very different image sizes remains...)

> >
> >  What should I take?
> 
> I would advice the "r1", that is the current release...

  Ok....

> >
> >  Another question: To what gentoo-mailinglist I should mail questions
> >  concerning hardware ?
> 
> I'm not sure, what kind of questions? Compatibility issues?

  My old PC is ... very old. It needs 30 Minutes after poweron until 
  "something" (dont know what exactly) gets warm enough so that the
  beast will boot successfully.

  Therefore I plan to replace the "core" of the PC with a new stuff.
  Motherboard, Athlon 64 X2 3800+, RAM.

  But I still didn't have decided waht mobo to buy and what kind of
  RAM in how to split it in banks.

  Therefore I need some hints concerning this "problem"...
> >
> >  Kind regards,
> >  Meino
> >
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> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Rumen Yotov]

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Hi,
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:38 +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> From: Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:47:38 -0200
> 
> > On 2/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >  this is my frist mail to this list.
> > >
> > >  I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
> > >  know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
> > >  I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.
> > >
> > >  But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name,
> > >  I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
> > >  other one.
> > 
> > Why not simply use the "current" link?
> 
>   I would have done this already...if the image size would have been
>   more similiar...
> 
The latest installer ISO's are smaller (IMHO) because they contain only
stage3 tarballs (no stage-1 & 2 anymore). Haven't checked though.
> > I don't know exactly why it is smaller, but you should have no
> > problems with it... As the team said, its just a media refresh with a
> > few bug fixes.
> > 
> > >
> > >  So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?
> > 
> > A quick google search returned:
> > http://www.gentoo.org/news/20051121-release-2005.1-r1.xml
...SKIP...
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > 
HTH.Rumen

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo server random system files

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Question, all.  Had a Gentoo web server.  Was humming along great for 3 
months.  One morning, I went to ssh into it and it denied me access.  
Mind you, the website hosted by the server was still running.  So I 
walked over to the console and went to log in.  All logins were denied, 
even root.  So I rebooted and attempted to enter single-user mode by 
passing "1" to the kernel command line from GRUB.  And it loaded the 
kernel.  And then stopped with the error "/sbin/init: not found."

After I booted off the Gentoo livecd, I found that the contents of /bin, 
/sbin, and /lib were missing, and that key config files in /etc (like 
passwd, group, and shadow) had turned to total garbage (random 
characters).  So I extracted a new stage3 tarball in the root directory 
and re-created the config files.  It booted fine and ran for about 10 
minutes.  Then, after having ssh'd into it successfully twice, it again 
locked me out.  When I tried a console login, I got the error "udev: 
device node /hda3 not found" and it was locked hard.  Another reboot got 
me to the "/sbin/init: not found" error again.  Now I have completely 
repartitioned the drive and started over.  It SEEMS to be working.  The 
drive is brand new.  Running with recommended settings (UDMA 4).  I've 
never had any I/O errors, no access problems, etc.  It just randomly 
started deleting key files after a few minutes of activity.  Any clues?  
BTW, the drive tools provided by Western Digital find no errors with the 
drive.

-Josh Armstrong
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Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Ghaith Hachem]

if you will be downloading everything from the net size wouldn't
matter just use the minimal cd if you want it's just a working
environment to use to extract the basic files then chroot i once did
it from an already installed distro.. and even from windows (read the
archives the topic was still on last week) so the medium wouldn't
matter if you're online..


On 2/10/06, Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:38 +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> > From: Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?
> > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:47:38 -0200
> >
> > > On 2/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >  this is my frist mail to this list.
> > > >
> > > >  I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
> > > >  know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
> > > >  I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.
> > > >
> > > >  But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name,
> > > >  I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
> > > >  other one.
> > >
> > > Why not simply use the "current" link?
> >
> >   I would have done this already...if the image size would have been
> >   more similiar...
> >
> The latest installer ISO's are smaller (IMHO) because they contain only
> stage3 tarballs (no stage-1 & 2 anymore). Haven't checked though.
> > > I don't know exactly why it is smaller, but you should have no
> > > problems with it... As the team said, its just a media refresh with a
> > > few bug fixes.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >  So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?
> > >
> > > A quick google search returned:
> > > http://www.gentoo.org/news/20051121-release-2005.1-r1.xml
> ...SKIP...
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > >
> HTH.Rumen
>
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?

[Daniel da Veiga]

On 2/10/06, Ghaith Hachem <blacksadness@gmail.com> wrote:
> if you will be downloading everything from the net size wouldn't
> matter just use the minimal cd if you want it's just a working
> environment to use to extract the basic files then chroot i once did
> it from an already installed distro.. and even from windows (read the
> archives the topic was still on last week) so the medium wouldn't
> matter if you're online..
>

Ghaith is right, if you're going to install with network, get the
minimal cd, your bandwidth will be used (and very well used) later :)
About your hardware advice, if you're going A64, I would advice you to
join the gentoo-a64 list, pretty good source for this kind of advice,
other than that, research for compatible hardware can be done over the
net (try http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatibility.html) and if you
have any specific question left after your web search, I guess someone
here at gentoo-user would be happy to answer... :) good luck.

>
> On 2/10/06, Rumen Yotov <rumen@qrypto.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 17:38 +0100, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> > > From: Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] First Mail to this list: Different isos ?
> > > Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:47:38 -0200
> > >
> > > > On 2/10/06, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > >  this is my frist mail to this list.
> > > > >
> > > > >  I am on the way to install Gentoo-Linux onto my HD...but I don't
> > > > >  know what iso image to use. My platform is x86-based, therefore
> > > > >  I will use one of the *x86*.iso images.
> > > > >
> > > > >  But there is a *2005.1*iso and a *2005.1-ri*iso. Right from the name,
> > > > >  I would choose the *r1* image. But it is very much smaller then the
> > > > >  other one.
> > > >
> > > > Why not simply use the "current" link?
> > >
> > >   I would have done this already...if the image size would have been
> > >   more similiar...
> > >
> > The latest installer ISO's are smaller (IMHO) because they contain only
> > stage3 tarballs (no stage-1 & 2 anymore). Haven't checked though.
> > > > I don't know exactly why it is smaller, but you should have no
> > > > problems with it... As the team said, its just a media refresh with a
> > > > few bug fixes.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  So...is this *r1* image an update, a fix, another kind of Gentoo...?
> > > >
> > > > A quick google search returned:
> > > > http://www.gentoo.org/news/20051121-release-2005.1-r1.xml
> > ...SKIP...
> > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > > >
> > HTH.Rumen
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Ghaith
>
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>


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo server random system files

[Mick]

Lord Imbrius the Despondent wrote:

> Question, all.  Had a Gentoo web server.  Was humming along great for 3
> months.  One morning, I went to ssh into it and it denied me access.
> Mind you, the website hosted by the server was still running.  So I
> walked over to the console and went to log in.  All logins were denied,
> even root.  So I rebooted and attempted to enter single-user mode by
> passing "1" to the kernel command line from GRUB.  And it loaded the
> kernel.  And then stopped with the error "/sbin/init: not found."
> 
> After I booted off the Gentoo livecd, I found that the contents of /bin,
> /sbin, and /lib were missing, and that key config files in /etc (like
> passwd, group, and shadow) had turned to total garbage (random
> characters).  So I extracted a new stage3 tarball in the root directory
> and re-created the config files.  It booted fine and ran for about 10
> minutes.  Then, after having ssh'd into it successfully twice, it again
> locked me out.  When I tried a console login, I got the error "udev:
> device node /hda3 not found" and it was locked hard.  Another reboot got
> me to the "/sbin/init: not found" error again.  Now I have completely
> repartitioned the drive and started over.  It SEEMS to be working.  The
> drive is brand new.  Running with recommended settings (UDMA 4).  I've
> never had any I/O errors, no access problems, etc.  It just randomly
> started deleting key files after a few minutes of activity.  Any clues?
> BTW, the drive tools provided by Western Digital find no errors with the
> drive.

Josh, better if you create a new thread instead of replying to Meino's
thread and 'hijacking' the topic.  Is there a chance that your server has
been compromised?

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