[gentoo-user] What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[gentoo-user] What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

What will  it do when a package that won't emerge due to masking when you
have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" set in /etc/make.conf and you comment out
the entries in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask about it?

I want to install xvidtune but it is masked along with dozens of
dependancies for this reason:

# Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> (07 Aug 2005)
# Modularized X, upstream release candidates

It starts like this:

  Calculating dependencies   
  !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "xvidtune" have been masked.
  !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
  - x11-apps/xvidtune-1.0.1 (masked by: package.mask)

But as I comment out the entries there are always more that turn up
when I run emerge xvidtune again.  I've commented about 8 so
far.... but haven't done any real installing just seeing where this
goes and need some coaching from someone who better understands what I
might be getting into.

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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Thomas Kirchner]

* On Feb  3 13:37, Harry Putnam (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> But as I comment out the entries there are always more that turn up
> when I run emerge xvidtune again.  I've commented about 8 so
> far.... but haven't done any real installing just seeing where this
> goes and need some coaching from someone who better understands what I
> might be getting into.

You shouldn't be editing any files in /usr/portage yourself - they'll 
just be overwritten on your next emerge sync.  Instead, put 
"package-category/name" (without the quotes) into 
/etc/portage/package.unmask .  (If that file doesn't exist, create it.)

Tom
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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

Thomas Kirchner <lists@halffull.org> writes:

> * On Feb  3 13:37, Harry Putnam (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
>> But as I comment out the entries there are always more that turn up
>> when I run emerge xvidtune again.  I've commented about 8 so
>> far.... but haven't done any real installing just seeing where this
>> goes and need some coaching from someone who better understands what I
>> might be getting into.
>
> You shouldn't be editing any files in /usr/portage yourself - they'll 
> just be overwritten on your next emerge sync.  Instead, put 
> "package-category/name" (without the quotes) into 
> /etc/portage/package.unmask .  (If that file doesn't exist, create it.)

That doesn't appear to have the disired effect here...

  cat /etc/portage/package.unmask
  x11-apps/xvidtune
===================================
  root # emerge -vp xvidtune
  
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
    Calculating dependencies -
  !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-libs/libXxf86vm" have been masked.
  !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
  - x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.0 (masked by: package.mask)
  # Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> (07 Aug 2005)
  # Modularized X, upstream release candidates
  [...]

Or are you saying I need to list ever dependance in there too?
Its a very long list.  I got as high as 12 and was still getting that
message with yet another dependancy.

What can I do to automate or batch some of this.  Or is there some way
to just install xvidtune and get on with it.  I had it installed in a
previous install with none of this coming up less than 2 mnths ago.

  root # equery depends  x11-apps/xvidtune
   [ Searching for packages depending on x11-apps/xvidtune... ]

Shows nothing...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:22:22 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

> Or are you saying I need to list ever dependance in there too?
> Its a very long list.  I got as high as 12 and was still getting that
> message with yet another dependancy.

You need to list every dependency in there, but first you need to find
out why they have all been masked in package.mask. There is usually a good
reason for hard-masking a package.


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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes:

> On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:22:22 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Or are you saying I need to list ever dependance in there too?
>> Its a very long list.  I got as high as 12 and was still getting that
>> message with yet another dependancy.
>
> You need to list every dependency in there, but first you need to find
> out why they have all been masked in package.mask. There is usually a good
> reason for hard-masking a package.

The reason has been posted in a few messages in this thread or at
least in my initial post; from /usr/portage/package.mask:

 # Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> (07 Aug 2005)
 # Modularized X, upstream release candidates

And a quite long string of package names follow including xvidtune

I'm apparently using the wrong command to try to learn the
dependancies.

  root # equery depends  x11-apps/xvidtune
  [ Searching for packages depending on x11-apps/xvidtune... ]

No help there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[gentoo-user]

Harry Putnam wrote:

> The reason has been posted in a few messages in this thread or at
>
>least in my initial post; from /usr/portage/package.mask:
>
> # Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> (07 Aug 2005)
> # Modularized X, upstream release candidates
>
>And a quite long string of package names follow including xvidtune
>
>I'm apparently using the wrong command to try to learn the
>dependancies.
>
>  root # equery depends  x11-apps/xvidtune
>  [ Searching for packages depending on x11-apps/xvidtune... ]
>
>No help there.
>
>  
>
Hello Harry,

the developers are currently in the process of switching to a modular X 
server. This is a big change which is known to break stuff.
You should, however, be fine as long as you do use stable packages.

See also the latest Gentoo Newsletter at
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060130-newsletter.xml which also 
contains a migration guide.

Editing files under /usr/portage is Not What You Want To Do (TM). The 
changes will be destroyed the next time you do "emerge --sync". Rather 
go to /etc/portage and create package.mask/.use/.keywords...

Hope I could be of help.

Johnny

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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

gentoo-user@pierau.org writes:

> the developers are currently in the process of switching to a modular
> X server. This is a big change which is known to break stuff.
> You should, however, be fine as long as you do use stable packages.
>
> See also the latest Gentoo Newsletter at
> http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060130-newsletter.xml which also
> contains a migration guide.

Thanks.. that explains things quite a lot... I guess I'm not really
ready to `migrate'.  Looks like a lot of work.  Its spelled out how to
do it but complicated enough for me to really botch things up.

All I really wanted was to run xvidtune.  Seems pretty extreme to go
thru the whole mess described there for that.  I reasonably certain
threre is plenty of room in that process to make a mess and end up
pulling hair for a week.

Maybe there is another tool that can do what xvidtune does?  Far as I
know it is the only thing that will show you the actual resolution of
your display.  `xwininfo' and `xdypinfo' do NOT do that.

They show the desktop size which in my case is (virtual) 2048x1536.
The actual res thru my view port is something quite different.

xvidtune knows about all that and reports whats really going on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Willie Wong]

On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked:
> And a quite long string of package names follow including xvidtune
> 
> I'm apparently using the wrong command to try to learn the
> dependancies.
> 
>   root # equery depends  x11-apps/xvidtune
>   [ Searching for packages depending on x11-apps/xvidtune... ]
> 

equery depends xvidtune  shows the packages depending on xvidtune. 
To show the packages xvidtune depends on, use

  equery depgraph xvidtune

Best, 

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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

Willie Wong <wwong@Princeton.EDU> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:13:58PM -0600, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked:
>> And a quite long string of package names follow including xvidtune
>> 
>> I'm apparently using the wrong command to try to learn the
>> dependancies.
>> 
>>   root # equery depends  x11-apps/xvidtune
>>   [ Searching for packages depending on x11-apps/xvidtune... ]
>> 
>
> equery depends xvidtune  shows the packages depending on xvidtune. 
> To show the packages xvidtune depends on, use
>
>   equery depgraph xvidtune

root # equery depgraph  x11-apps/xvidtune
[ Searching for packages matching x11-apps/xvidtune... ]

Thats why I didn't post it... neither show poop but any attempt to
install will show dependancy after dependancy as you add them to the
unmask file, till you puke.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:30:35 -0600
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:

> gentoo-user@pierau.org writes:
> 
> > the developers are currently in the process of switching to a modular
> > X server. This is a big change which is known to break stuff.
> > You should, however, be fine as long as you do use stable packages.
> >
> > See also the latest Gentoo Newsletter at
> > http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060130-newsletter.xml which also
> > contains a migration guide.
> 
> Thanks.. that explains things quite a lot... I guess I'm not really
> ready to `migrate'.  Looks like a lot of work.  Its spelled out how to
> do it but complicated enough for me to really botch things up.
> 
> All I really wanted was to run xvidtune.  Seems pretty extreme to go
> thru the whole mess described there for that.  I reasonably certain
> threre is plenty of room in that process to make a mess and end up
> pulling hair for a week.
> 
> Maybe there is another tool that can do what xvidtune does?  Far as I
> know it is the only thing that will show you the actual resolution of
> your display.  `xwininfo' and `xdypinfo' do NOT do that.
> 
> They show the desktop size which in my case is (virtual) 2048x1536.
> The actual res thru my view port is something quite different.
> 
> xvidtune knows about all that and reports whats really going on.

xvidtune is part or xorg-x11.

If you have the older style, stable xorg installed you already have
xvidtune:

nick@sf ~/media/torrents $ qpkg -f /usr/bin/xvidtune
x11-base/xorg-x11 *



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[gentoo-user] Re: What trouble am I creating by commenting entries in [...]/packag.mask

[Harry Putnam]

Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz> writes:

>> xvidtune knows about all that and reports whats really going on.
>
> xvidtune is part or xorg-x11.
>
> If you have the older style, stable xorg installed you already have
> xvidtune:

Thanks Nick that stopped this sillyness in its tracks.

Egad, once again I get to look rather stupid.   But what started this
whole query was that typing xvidtune at a command line gave the bash
message no such command or something similar.

I'm not sure why that happened ... perhaps a typo in the cmdline.  But
that set me off on this wild goose chase.

Typing xvidtune now starts xvidtune.....

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