quoth the Paul: > my findings with KDE is that its bloadware Right. It takes code to make software usable ;) > if I wanted bloat , I'd run windows You seem to be implying that the only problem with windows is its size... > Gnome-lite is just that , light So is fat-free ice cream, but I wouldn't eat it. Too brackish. > It serves my purposes fine and the menus are easy to edit to my liking. Then stick with it. Interestingly, that is 2 reasons why I use KDE. -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972