[gentoo-user] emerge update question

[gentoo-user] emerge update question

[C. Beamer]

Hi all,

I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
[ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
[ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
[ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]

I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-libs. 

I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.

In other situations (like for the ati-drivers), I put
'=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r5 ~x86' in my package.keywords file
to get around upgrading the driver because with the newer version of
this driver, my system won't  shutdown or reboot when either of those
options are chosen from the menu on KDE logout.  However, I tried this
and I get a message about an "invalid atom" (even without the ~x86 at
the end of the line).

I don't want to downgrade the alsa-utils in case it breaks alsa-driver
and as I said, I don't understand why all of a sudden I would have to.

How do I prevent the downgrade during an emerge --update world without
having to emerge each package individually?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[Rumen Yotov]

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On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
> --pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
> [ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
> [ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
> [ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
> [ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
> [ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
> [ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
> [ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
> [ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
> 
> I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
> need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
> up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-libs. 
> 
> I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
> the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
> packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
> each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
> emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
> be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
> world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
> 
> In other situations (like for the ati-drivers), I put
> '=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.14.13-r5 ~x86' in my package.keywords file
> to get around upgrading the driver because with the newer version of
> this driver, my system won't  shutdown or reboot when either of those
> options are chosen from the menu on KDE logout.  However, I tried this
> and I get a message about an "invalid atom" (even without the ~x86 at
> the end of the line).
> 
> I don't want to downgrade the alsa-utils in case it breaks alsa-driver
> and as I said, I don't understand why all of a sudden I would have to.
> 
> How do I prevent the downgrade during an emerge --update world without
> having to emerge each package individually?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Colleen
> 
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> 
Hi,
It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
BTW does anybody knows about some script to check the dependencies (like "dep")
from 'ecatmur' (it's not maintained anymore). Very usefull tool, but doesn't work
with latest portage though.
Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[C. Beamer]

Rumen Yotov wrote:

>On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
>>--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
>>
>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>
>>Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
>>[ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
>>[ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
>>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
>>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
>>[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
>>[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
>>
>>I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
>>need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
>>up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. 
>>
>>I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
>>the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
>>packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
>>each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
>>emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
>>be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
>>world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>Hi,
>It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
>It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
>dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
>Rumen
>  
>
Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains
for upgrade/downgrade.  However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update
--deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies.  The
list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was
meant by "check the one above alsa-utils'.

Regards,

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[Aggelos]

C. Beamer wrote:
> Rumen Yotov wrote:
> 
> 
>>On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
>>>--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
>>>
>>>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>>>
>>>Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
>>>[ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
>>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
>>>[ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
>>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
>>>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
>>>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
>>>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
>>>[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
>>>[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
>>>
>>>I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
>>>need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
>>>up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. 
>>>
>>>I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
>>>the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
>>>packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
>>>each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
>>>emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
>>>be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
>>>world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>Hi,
>>It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
>>It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
>>dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
>>Rumen
>> 
>>
> 
> Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains
> for upgrade/downgrade.  However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update
> --deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies.  The
> list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was
> meant by "check the one above alsa-utils'.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Colleen
A few hours ago I ran emerge --sync
and it upgaded to alsa-utils-1.0.10
;-) Aggelos.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 17:19:54 +0000, Rumen Yotov wrote:

> Running "dep -r category/package" displays packages for which this
> package is a dependency.

Can't you do the same with "equery depends" or "qpkg -q -I"?


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[Rumen Yotov]

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On (03/01/06 09:22), C. Beamer wrote:
> Rumen Yotov wrote:
> 
> >On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
> >>--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
> >>
> >>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >>
> >>Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
> >>[ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
> >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
> >>[ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
> >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
> >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
> >>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
> >>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
> >>[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
> >>[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
> >>
> >>I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
> >>need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
> >>up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. 
> >>
> >>I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
> >>the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
> >>packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
> >>each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
> >>emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
> >>be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
> >>world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >Hi,
> >It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
> >It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
> >dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
> >Rumen
> >  
> >
> Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains
> for upgrade/downgrade.  However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update
> --deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies.  The
> list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was
> meant by "check the one above alsa-utils'.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Colleen
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
Hi,
Know it's not always possible to see deps using --tree, my other option was to use
"dep" script (for which i searched a replacement in my prev mail).
Running "dep -r category/package" displays packages for which this package is a dependency.
Bad that it's development has stoped, doesn't work with portage-2.1_preX.
To show how "--tree" works, see below (run on my system some minutes ago):
...
#emerge -DNu world -ptv

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild     U ] media-sound/audacity-1.2.4b-r1 [1.2.4b] USE="encode mad vorbis" 0 kB 
[nomerge      ] media-video/totem-1.2.0-r2  USE="a52 dvd flac gnome mad mpeg ogg theora vorbis win32codecs xine xv -debug -lirc -nsplugin" 
[nomerge      ]  media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3  USE="X a52 aac alsa asf dvd esd ffmpeg flac imagemagick ipv6 mad mng nls nvidia opengl oss sdl speex theora 
vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -arts -cle266 -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -fbcon -gnome -i8x0 -libcaca -samba -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" 
[ebuild     U ]   media-libs/speex-1.1.11.1 [1.1.10] USE="ogg -sse*" 0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
...
See the package above "speex" with label [nomerge] - this means speex *is* a dependency of xine.
Dependencies are also shown by indents, see the exempt.
Here you can't see the dependencies for "media-sound/audacity" (as in your case).
Will look in www.gentooexperimental.org for another script (remeber there were some).
PS: currently filing a Bug on speex as it doesn't compile ;-)
HTH.Rumen

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge update question

[Rumen Yotov]

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Hi,
On (03/01/06 17:19), Rumen Yotov wrote:
> On (03/01/06 09:22), C. Beamer wrote:
> > Rumen Yotov wrote:
> > 
> > >On (03/01/06 00:30), C. Beamer wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Hi all,
> > >>
> > >>I ran emerge --sync this evening and afterwards when I did  'emerge
> > >>--pretend --update --deep world', I got the following result:
> > >>
> > >>These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> > >>
> > >>Calculating world dependencies  ..... ....\b\b ...done!
> > >>[ebuild     UD] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.9a [1.0.10_rc3]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xvid-1.0.3 [1.0.2]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20051216 [0.4.9_p20050226-r5]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3 [1.1.1-r2]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.12-r4 [0.5.12-r3]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 [0.23-r3]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/hal-0.4.8 [0.4.7-r2]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.1 [1.2.0-r1]
> > >>[ebuild     U ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r3 [0.6.14-r2]
> > >>
> > >>I understand what this is telling me, but I don't understand why I would
> > >>need to downgrade alsa-utils.  I have alsa-driver version 1.0.10_r3 and
> > >>up until today, when I synced, there wasn't a problem with alsa-utils. 
> > >>
> > >>I assumed that the downgrade was because one of the other packages in
> > >>the list.  However, I did 'emerge --pretend' on each of the other
> > >>packages and none listed alsa-utils as a dependency.  Then, I emerged
> > >>each of the packages individually and got no error messages.  After
> > >>emerging all other packages, my system reboots fine and there seems to
> > >>be no problems.  However, now if I run 'emerge --pretend --update --deep
> > >>world', emerge still wants to downgrade alsa-utils.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >Hi,
> > >It's a question of adding one additional option to emerge: --tree (-t).
> > >It'll then display some additional packages for which the upgrades are
> > >dependencies, check the one above alsa-utils - it requires the downgrade.
> > >Rumen
> > >  
> > >
> > Since I upgraded all the packages individually, only alsa-utils remains
> > for upgrade/downgrade.  However, I did try 'emerge --pretend --update
> > --deep --tree alsa-utils' and it didn't return any dependencies.  The
> > list as given above was the complete list, so I'm not sure what was
> > meant by "check the one above alsa-utils'.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Colleen
> > -- 
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > 
> Hi,
> Know it's not always possible to see deps using --tree, my other option was to use
> "dep" script (for which i searched a replacement in my prev mail).
> Running "dep -r category/package" displays packages for which this package is a dependency.
> Bad that it's development has stoped, doesn't work with portage-2.1_preX.
Glad i was wrong,"dep's" development hasn't stoped,latest version (0.5.8) works with portage-2.1_preX.
Latest version is in a new site (link) search the forums for the link, or mail me.
> To show how "--tree" works, see below (run on my system some minutes ago):
> ...
> #emerge -DNu world -ptv
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild     U ] media-sound/audacity-1.2.4b-r1 [1.2.4b] USE="encode mad vorbis" 0 kB 
> [nomerge      ] media-video/totem-1.2.0-r2  USE="a52 dvd flac gnome mad mpeg ogg theora vorbis win32codecs xine xv -debug -lirc -nsplugin" 
> [nomerge      ]  media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.1-r3  USE="X a52 aac alsa asf dvd esd ffmpeg flac imagemagick ipv6 mad mng nls nvidia opengl oss sdl speex theora 
> vorbis win32codecs xv -aalib -arts -cle266 -debug -directfb -dts -dxr3 -fbcon -gnome -i8x0 -libcaca -samba -v4l -vcd -vidix -xinerama -xvmc" 
> [ebuild     U ]   media-libs/speex-1.1.11.1 [1.1.10] USE="ogg -sse*" 0 kB 
> 
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> ...
> See the package above "speex" with label [nomerge] - this means speex *is* a dependency of xine.
> Dependencies are also shown by indents, see the exempt.
> Here you can't see the dependencies for "media-sound/audacity" (as in your case).
> Will look in www.gentooexperimental.org for another script (remeber there were some).
> PS: currently filing a Bug on speex as it doesn't compile ;-)
> HTH.Rumen
i leave the whole thread for people to see what it's all about.
Rumen

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