From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EeSzg-0006oM-7p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:55:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAM7sDEQ014971; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:54:13 GMT Received: from tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.34]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAM7nAMQ029089 for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 07:49:10 GMT Received: from sympatico.ca ([70.49.158.22]) by tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.10 201-253-122-130-110-20040306) with SMTP id <20051122074909.FKTS25800.tomts13-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:49:09 -0500 Received: by sympatico.ca (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:49:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:49:09 -0500 From: Philip Webb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: default stage3 (was : [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo still on the right path?) Message-ID: <20051122074909.GA6606@sympatico.ca> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <8aaf1ee00511210433s6d23e8a6l6d95c9c2f2ed8b7d@mail.gmail.com> <200511211413.14160.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <4381E519.7090900@planet.nl> <342e1090511211019x5070f5c3x4c7df4864d0a0f4e@mail.gmail.com> <43824B35.4020904@planet.nl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43824B35.4020904@planet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Originating-IP: [0] X-Archives-Salt: 3bc2c8d6-765b-4e01-8b2f-46de0c8e8a79 X-Archives-Hash: d6f3e053c14b2fccf20caa1c97ab9cc9 051121 Holly Bostick wrote: > Daniel da Veiga schreef: >> Gentoo is not easy, its not simple >> and its not designed or the best distro to start in the Linux world. > What's so hard about it, as opposed to any other Linux distro, > once you get past the install issue? In a word, 'maintenance'. No, that's not hard for you & me, but your typical Linux novice is going to have to learn a lot to keep his/her box as upto-date as s/he would using a binary distro. For the latter, you just download the new Kubuntu/etc ISO every few months, whereas with Gentoo either you choose which pkgs to update & when, -- eg do I get KDE 3.4.3 while it's ~x86 or wait till it's 'stable' or wait a bit longer till 3.5.0 is ~x86 or ... ? (that's my approach) -- or you blindly do 'emerge world' & hope for the best (I never 'emerge world'). Also, you have to configure & install new kernel versions or can you trust it to Genkernel (which I have never used)? I couldn't think of using anything but Gentoo on my workaday box, but for my back-up machine it's likely to be Mandrake 2006 , as the CPU is too slow for painless Portage & I update it only once/year. Newcomers to Linux should be advised to try something better than Linspire, but should not be introduced to Gentoo until they're used to UNIX methods & are prepared to invest a bit of their on-going time in sysadmin. -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb : purslow@chass.utoronto.ca ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT `-O----------O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list