From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Edr9K-0005ku-Rr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:30:39 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAKFTi7e000138; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:29:44 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.12]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAKFOvo5027210 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:24:57 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 376F92D312C for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:24:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (hathor.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.1]) by amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170AC2D3128 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:24:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de ([139.174.241.94] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTP id 9328032 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:24:57 +0100 From: "Hemmann, Volker Armin" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] regarding PAM [WAS: root password gremlin] Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 16:24:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <43807C5C.3040204@mid.email-server.info> <43807EF4.9070803@buanzo.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <43807EF4.9070803@buanzo.com.ar> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511201624.56090.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de X-Archives-Salt: 64d5ccc1-77fc-48c4-823d-1ab94c684a7f X-Archives-Hash: 09792da257a0cbc2c2e08ee87e43a7d7 On Sunday 20 November 2005 14:49, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > Optional things aren't standard. They are > > optional. PAM is optional. You don't need > > it - at least not for basic setups. > > It is NOW optional. I'm sure this will change, that's why I recommend to > try it now that there is time to still enhance it LOTS. > well, pam is buggy (ever logged out because of a X crash and not able to play any sounds anymore? That was pam) pam has a long history of security problems pam is not easy to configure and error prone. every added layer adds to the risks. All that I read said, that pam was a temporary solution some years ago - and that the chances are big that it will fade into obscurity in the next ones. For single-user setups it is as needed as a wart. I am angry with myself, that I installed it, without thinking. Learning? Where? And why? Most setups don't need it. And the ones that need some more complex authentification, can get it in other ways. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list