From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdiLQ-00038z-Jf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:06:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAK65Te4010322; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:05:29 GMT Received: from mailout2.igs.net (mailout2.igs.net [216.58.97.88]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAK5w4a9021903 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 05:58:04 GMT Received: from waltdnes.org (i216-58-16-232.cybersurf.com [216.58.16.232]) by mailout2.igs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B37B47E85C for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:58:16 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 00:58:16 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] root password gremlin Message-ID: <20051120055816.GD4003@waltdnes.org> References: <20051117203328.73680.qmail@web25601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <437CED2F.7050502@buanzo.com.ar> <20051117231122.GA30003@princeton.edu> <20051119054556.GD18358@waltdnes.org> <437EBED9.5060504@cs.ubishops.ca> <437EC8BB.2040507@mid.email-server.info> <437F4072.70604@buanzo.com.ar> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <437F4072.70604@buanzo.com.ar> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 48131dfe-7c25-4876-bfd7-5642738d3b93 X-Archives-Hash: 92eb8cecf298b0e84676eb4abed7a11c On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 12:10:42PM -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote > Alexander Skwar wrote: > > What do you need PAM for, when there's basically just one > > (human) user on the system and the system acts as a "consumer" > > (ie. no servers)? Why add the complexity of PAM? Where's > > the gain - in *THAT* scenario? > > Learning. The whole point of using free, open source software. if > you do not want to get messy, then use windows. Anyway, if this user > chosed all of his use flags, then he is probably willing to LEARN. It's not that I don't want to learn. What I want to learn may be different from what you want to learn. I'm at the tail end of some experiments with de-noising digital photos from my camera. I've learned a lot about ImageMagick's "convert" command. It is one seriously powerful image manipulation toolset. My next personal project will be learning postgresql. I am familiar with Oracle SQL and PL/SQL. I'm not a CS, but at work I do write quite a few read-only queries. We've got Access via ODBC as well, but once you get past the really simple stuff, GUI "Query By Example" runs into a wall. Anyone aware of any "postgresql user groups" in the Toronto area? -- Walter Dnes In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list