[gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Radu Filip]

One of the reasons for which I switched to Gentoo two years ago was the 
fact from all the distributions out there, Gentoo was one of the fastest 
to provide a KDE build for the stable version, as soon as KDE team did a 
new new release.

I am "emerge sync"-ing almost daily and still there is no KDE 3.4.2 or KDE 
3.4.3 available:

[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-3.4.1

Am I missing something? I know I can use the "testing" version (~x86) but 
is there a serious reason for why there has been no new release of KDE for 
the stable Gentoo in the last months? I've read the Changelogs of kdebase 
and kdelibs from Gentoo Online Package Database and I found no clue.

As an ultimate solution, how "stable" is the testing build of KFDE 
3.4.3-r1?

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Petteri Räty]

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Radu Filip wrote:
> One of the reasons for which I switched to Gentoo two years ago was the
> fact from all the distributions out there, Gentoo was one of the fastest
> to provide a KDE build for the stable version, as soon as KDE team did a
> new new release.
> 
> I am "emerge sync"-ing almost daily and still there is no KDE 3.4.2 or
> KDE 3.4.3 available:
> 
> [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-3.4.1
> 
> Am I missing something? I know I can use the "testing" version (~x86)
> but is there a serious reason for why there has been no new release of
> KDE for the stable Gentoo in the last months? I've read the Changelogs
> of kdebase and kdelibs from Gentoo Online Package Database and I found
> no clue.
> 
> As an ultimate solution, how "stable" is the testing build of KFDE
> 3.4.3-r1?

I use kde-3.5_betas and they are very good so I guess that 3.4.3-r1
should work very well too but your mileage may wary. I have been trying
to ask for getting a later KDE to stable lately but no progress has been
made. Hopefully soon.

Regards,
Petteri Räty


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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:51:55 +0200 (EET), Radu Filip wrote:

> As an ultimate solution, how "stable" is the testing build of KFDE 
> 3.4.3-r1?

No idea, but 3.5.0_beta2 is solid here :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Benno Schulenberg]

Radu Filip wrote:
> As an ultimate solution, how "stable" is the testing build of
> KFDE 3.4.3-r1?

Rock solid here.  (But you may first want to inspect open KDE 3.4.2 
and 3.4.3 bugs on https://bugs.gentoo.org/ and see if any of those 
are likely to affect you.)

Benno
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Peper]

> No idea, but 3.5.0_beta2 is solid here :)
I wanted to switch to 3.5.0_beta2 too, but:

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
(dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])

I think kde 3.5.0_beta2 isn't a full release yet or hasn't been well/fully 
"imported" to portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Alexander Skwar]

Peper schrieb:
>> No idea, but 3.5.0_beta2 is solid here :)
> I wanted to switch to 3.5.0_beta2 too, but:
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
> (dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])

http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=libkpgp

It's still at beta1.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 00:34:09 +0100, Peper wrote:

> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
> (dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])

According to the certmanager ebuild, it only depends on beta1, which is
available.
 
> I think kde 3.5.0_beta2 isn't a full release yet or hasn't been
> well/fully "imported" to portage.

I think it is more likely that some components have not changed since
beta1, so there is no need for updated ebuilds.


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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Friday 04 November 2005 00:34, Peper wrote:
> > No idea, but 3.5.0_beta2 is solid here :)
>
> I wanted to switch to 3.5.0_beta2 too, but:
>
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
> (dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])

if you'd used the 'monolithic' (I like to call them the 'correct' ebuilds), 
all you need is some /etc/portage/package.unmask magic to get a full blown, 
nice Kde 3.5.0:beta2.

KDE version:  3.4.92 (beta2, >= 20051010)

from, control center

;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Peper]

> > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
> > (dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])
>
> According to the certmanager ebuild, it only depends on beta1, which is
> available.
No, i think that you are misreading the ebuild. I haven't chagned a single 
thing in it and emerge reports above error.

> > I think kde 3.5.0_beta2 isn't a full release yet or hasn't been
> > well/fully "imported" to portage.
>
> I think it is more likely that some components have not changed since
> beta1, so there is no need for updated ebuilds.
I think that there is an error in certmanager-3.5.0_beta2 ebuild. Changing 
some things manualy to 3.5_beta1 causes the same error, but with another 
version: missing ...3.5.0_beta1... So it could be a version naming error: 
logicaly after 3.5_beta1 should be 3.5_beta2 not 3.5.0_beta2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Peper]

> > > No idea, but 3.5.0_beta2 is solid here :)
> >
> > I wanted to switch to 3.5.0_beta2 too, but:
> >
> > emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "~kde-base/libkpgp-3.5.0_beta2".
> > (dependency required by "kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2" [ebuild])
>
> if you'd used the 'monolithic' (I like to call them the 'correct' ebuilds),
> all you need is some /etc/portage/package.unmask magic to get a full blown,
> nice Kde 3.5.0:beta2.
I am not using the kde-desktop, but a lot of its components and updating one 
of them - kontact, for now, is not possilble with newest "monolithic" version 
of ebuilds. Try to emerge certmanager(one of the kontact's dependecies) and 
you will see...

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 15:25:15 +0100, Peper wrote:

> > According to the certmanager ebuild, it only depends on beta1, which
> > is available.

> No, i think that you are misreading the ebuild. I haven't chagned a
> single thing in it and emerge reports above error.

It emerges OK here, so it would appear I am reading it correctly.

# emerge certmanager -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/certmanager-3.5.0_beta2  +arts -debug
+kdeenablefinal (-kdexdeltas) -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

[root@hactar localbackup]# emerge libkpgp -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/libkpgp-3.5_beta1  +arts -debug +kdeenablefinal
(-kdexdeltas) -xinerama 0 kB

> > I think it is more likely that some components have not changed since
> > beta1, so there is no need for updated ebuilds.

> I think that there is an error in certmanager-3.5.0_beta2 ebuild.
> Changing some things manualy to 3.5_beta1 causes the same error, but
> with another version: missing ...3.5.0_beta1... So it could be a
> version naming error: logicaly after 3.5_beta1 should be 3.5_beta2 not
> 3.5.0_beta2.

It looks like they changed the naming between beta1 and beta2, but the
ebuild appears to take this into account.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] What happened with KDE?

[Peper]

> It looks like they changed the naming between beta1 and beta2, but the
> ebuild appears to take this into account.
Sorry for saying thtat you are misreading the ebuilds. 

I have just figured out how it works, but i think that is misleading:
Unless you unmask the libkpgp package, emerge reports missing beta2 ebuild. I 
think that emerge instead of reporting that highest version of dep is 
missing, should report masked beta1 ebuild, because it matches the 
deprange(from 3.5_beta1 to 3.5.0_beta2).

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