From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EU9Di-0003MS-Dg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:47:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9OKjekU027431; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:45:40 GMT Received: from gabriel.sub.uni-goettingen.de (gabriel.sub.uni-goettingen.de [134.76.163.126]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9OKXGQ2014072 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:33:16 GMT Received: by gabriel.sub.uni-goettingen.de (Postfix, from userid 8) id D2C7C8954B; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:33:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from butch (dslb-082-083-033-105.pools.arcor-ip.net [82.83.33.105]) by gabriel.sub.uni-goettingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28DD89548 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:33:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:35:03 +0200 From: Hans-Werner Hilse To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] PDF or PS format for daily use? Message-Id: <20051024223503.7d33473d.hilse@web.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.0.2 (GTK+ 2.8.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Details: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=2.64 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on gabriel.sub.uni-goettingen.de X-Archives-Salt: 2cb1c7ea-a710-4ef0-8362-48c838061406 X-Archives-Hash: 69fb5ea223eaaf41304743afc60fb5b7 Hi, Sorry for another tree of answers, but the others seemed a bit "fuzzy" to me... On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 16:08:50 +0800 (CST) Zhang Weiwu wrote: > Because I always save two copies of every of my document, one in original > format (eg. odt) and another in printable format for my colleagues in case > they don't have the Linux fonts and software. Here comes the question should > I keep a PS copy or PDF copy. Note that PS is an interpreted language. PDF is a pure document format, no "program flow" involved there. You can do pretty funny things using Postscript you won't ever be able to do with PDF. I think Postscript even has a Random Generator. So if you do serious Postscript programming, PDF isn't an option ;-) PDF can be thought as the final result of a computation, Postscript describes the computation itself. > I think PDF copy is absolutely the prefered format because: > * easier to find acrobat reader; Hm. Let's turn this into: On most computers you'll find a PDF reader today. > * can be 'Tagged', especially used with OOo; Hm, produced by OOo, but "used"?!? Can be something to think of when it comes to reading on PDAs. > * possibility to 'copy and paste', though format will be lost; Not impossible with Postscript - doesn't have Gnome's new doc viewer have such a feature? Or something on KDE? Not sure, though... > * not to take other people by surprise with unfamiliar PS extension; But you still have the PDF version that _may_ prevent you from opening the PDFs on older Acrobat Readers when chosing a too high level. > * different quanlity: I can save PDF in very high quanlity that I was told > "can be taken to press house" No difference to postscript here - besides the new layers feature > * easy to convert to PS format when needed. This is true the other way, too. > Here comes the question: if the above all stands true, why do I ever need PS > format at all? There might be some reasons to keep this format still > existing. Perhaps in other areas, other then office work. Because that's what your printer interpretes? Or its network server thingy? > So the conclusion: for typical office workers, we can forget PS format. Except for piping it to the printer, yes. > Now welcome for suggestions. PDF is fine. Hm, and if you want something very future-proof, keep a plain text copy. This isn't a joke, let's discuss this in 30 years or so... > P.S. another quesiton I happen wish to have an answer: in one case, I have > to keep PS format because, I can print booklet (brochure) in OOO2 right the > way I expected, but if I carry this brochure to my colleague, and he doesn't > have openoffice, then I try to export to PDF format, and found there is no > 'brochure' option in exporting,[..... emerge pdftk && read about it on http://www.accesspdf.com, or check out the Multivalent Tools (google will tell you the address). > .......] also there is no 'brochure' option in > Acrobat Reader printing dialogue box, so it's clear if I export to PDF > format I will never be able to print it in brochure style on a normal PC, so > I have to print to PS file and carry it. But so far this is the only case I > think I need PS format. If I only exported PDF format, can I still print a > brochure? The difficulty in printing brochure is you have to make correct > page order. Of course. You can create a new PDF with above mentioned tools that has pages from the other PDF layouted in a certain way in the new PDF. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list