From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ETA46-0002F5-0k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:29:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9M3PJf2023661; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:25:19 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.12]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9M39VrQ027919 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 03:09:31 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DADCD2D0C87 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (hathor.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.1]) by amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F022D0C5D for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:12:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de ([139.174.241.94] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.8) with ESMTP id 8655477 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:12:22 +0200 From: "Hemmann, Volker Armin" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!! Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:12:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <1cc2dc830510211211w7949e57fm79a52ccf90882e37@mail.gmail.com> <200510212124.44005.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <435989DF.8040709@maestroprogramador.com> In-Reply-To: <435989DF.8040709@maestroprogramador.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510220512.21455.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id j9M39VrQ027919 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id j9M3PJfM023661 X-Archives-Salt: 123a11ae-7988-4d01-8f06-0c2ae15f2e52 X-Archives-Hash: d7450d519f92d984fa015aa12ccc6809 On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fern=E1ndez L=F3pez wrote: > Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: > > On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: > >>My hole linux box has crashed !!!! > >>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world.... > >> > >>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql..... today my hole > >>system is against me.... > >>I think in reinstall the full system .... has any one got a better > >>idea, my backups are unavailable now .... > > > > what do you mean 'crashed'? > > > > does revdep-rebuilt still works? > > > > but at least now you know why you should not use --deep. > > Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade > dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old > libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower. --deep is totally superflous. When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway. So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the=20 latest are always the fastest too.=20 When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe=20 douzends of apps, only to have the latest version? A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make so= me=20 apps crashy&instabil. Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the= =20 libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least somethi= ng=20 that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you update=20 ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs). --deep does not solve problems, it generates them. --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list