[gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[maxim wexler]

Hello everybody,

I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
to google for it.

I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
way?

-mw


		
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Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, maxim wexler wrote:

> I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
> to google for it.
>
> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?

The "Gentoo Way" would be to switch over PORTAGE_OVERLAY (see
/etc/make.conf) and write an ebuild for it ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[Michael Crute]

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On 9/29/05, maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
> to google for it.
>
> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?
>
> You can build it by hand but then whats the point of running Gentoo?
Instead you should write an ebuild (
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2) then
contibute it back to the community(
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml), or find someone else who
will do it for you/already has done it and use their ebuild (
http://bugs.gentoo.org)

-Mike

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RE: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[Dave Nebinger]

> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?

It's the general unix way of doing things, so sure it fits into gentoo also.
Ebuilds are not really necessary unless you believe a lot of other folks
will be using the same package.

That said, having written some ebuilds lately, I can tell you for the most
part the process is pretty easy.  Start with an ebuild for a package that is
similar to what you're going to install, make the various changes for the
package (the gentoo doc for the ebuilds is your best friend here), and drop
it into your overlay.  If you want to release it, it goes easily into
bugs.gentoo.org.

If you don't want to do the ebuild yourself, and you believe at some point
in the future someone else might get one into portage, you can always use
the ./configure script to install to /usr/local - it would still be
available yet allows for future emerging should it get added.



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Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[Yoandy Rodriguez]

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You should first look into bugzilla just to make see if there is a bug
request for that package, then do the overlay thing ;)
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 10:18 -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
> to google for it.
> 
> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?
> 
> -mw
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] no ebuild what to do?

[Nick Rout]

The others have told you how to incorporate it in portage. It is nice to write an ebuild for these things as it makes updating and removal of the package easy.

But  this package is one bash script and one man page. As long as you
remeber where you installed it to updating and removal of two files
shouldn't be a problem.

OTOH writing an ebuild is a useful skill to learn, I did it for a game
recently and learned a lot. I can now install and remove the game, and
update it at will.

Just a pity the powers that be don't bother promoting such stuff from
bugs.gentoo.org.


On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler wrote:

> Hello everybody,
> 
> I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
> to google for it.
> 
> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?
> 
> -mw
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Greg Yasko]

maxim wexler <blissfix <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I'm sure this has been covered before but can't seem
> to google for it.
> 
> I'd like to install dekagen but there are no ebuilds
> for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and follow
> the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> way?
> 
> -mw

There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you could use Portdir_Overlay
and provide some much needed testing.

I'd link to the Gentoo Wiki for how to do it but it's been spammed, so here goes
& of course do the commands without the quotes:

Set PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf to /usr/local/portage

Download dekagen-1.0.2.tar.gz and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles

Login as root and do a "mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen"

Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created.

Run "ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest" in the dekagen directory.

Add "app-cdr/dekagen ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords

Finally, do an "emerge dekagen" and it should work.

Good luck.

-G.Y.

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[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Greg Yasko]

Greg Yasko <gyasko <at> cox.net> writes:
 

> Login as root and do a "mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen"
> 
> Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created.
> 

Copy the ebuild, which is at gentoo bugzilla under app-cdr/dekagen to your
dekagen directory.

> Run "ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest" in the dekagen directory.
> 
> Add "app-cdr/dekagen ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords
> 
> Finally, do an "emerge dekagen" and it should work.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -G.Y.
> 

Whoops! I forgot to tell you to copy the ebuild to it's directory. See above.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Nick Rout]

Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me:

1. why install to /opt?
2. DEPEND s on a lot of optional stuff from my quick read of the dekagen docs this morning. Can you do DEPEND with alternatives? like 

DEPEND bladeenc|lame|vorbistools

3. aren't all the DEPENDS actually RDEPENDS as nothing at all is needed
to compile/install the program, other than bash and man which I believe
should always be present.

But I am open to education on these issues :-)

(By the way congratulations on the quick work, I started to do the same
thing, and got waylaid by my real employment :-)


On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:04:04 +0000 (UTC)
Greg Yasko wrote:

> There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you could use Portdir_Overlay
> and provide some much needed testing.
> 
> I'd link to the Gentoo Wiki for how to do it but it's been spammed, so here goes
> & of course do the commands without the quotes:
> 
> Set PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf to /usr/local/portage
> 
> Download dekagen-1.0.2.tar.gz and move it to /usr/portage/distfiles
> 
> Login as root and do a "mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen"
> 
> Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created.
> 
> Run "ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest" in the dekagen directory.
> 
> Add "app-cdr/dekagen ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords
> 
> Finally, do an "emerge dekagen" and it should work.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> -G.Y.
> 
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[gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Greg Yasko]

Nick Rout <nick <at> rout.co.nz> writes:

> 
> Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me:
> 

Change it to meet the Gentoo standards, if you have the time. I'd like to see
what all you'd change -- it's my first ebuild & I pirated the structure from
bashburn-1.6.ebuild:)

-G.Y.




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Nick Rout]

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:36:30 +0000 (UTC)
Greg Yasko wrote:

> Nick Rout <nick <at> rout.co.nz> writes:
> 
> > 
> > Forgive me for saying so, but this ebuild seems a little off to me:
> > 
> 
> Change it to meet the Gentoo standards, if you have the time. I'd like to see
> what all you'd change -- it's my first ebuild & I pirated the structure from
> bashburn-1.6.ebuild:)
> 
> -G.Y.

I'm no expert either, in fact I was kinda hoping you were going to give
me a lesson! 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[maxim wexler]

--- Greg Yasko <gyasko@cox.net> wrote:

> maxim wexler <blissfix <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > I'm sure this has been covered before but can't
> seem
> > to google for it.
> > 
> > I'd like to install dekagen but there are no
> ebuilds
> > for it. I suppose I could just unpack it and
> follow
> > the INSTALL doc but is that the appropriate gentoo
> > way?
> > 
> > -mw
> 
> There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you
> could use Portdir_Overlay
> and provide some much needed testing.

Could you explain how you found it? My searches always
came up "zarro".


		
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[maxim wexler]

> 
> There is now an ebuild in Gentoo's bugzilla, so you
> could use Portdir_Overlay
> and provide some much needed testing.

Well, I found it:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=New&product=Gentoo+Linux&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&changedin=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&newqueryname=&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=

but only because I clicked on something at random
culled from google. Since I can't know in advance what
the bug# is, why does a search for the ebuild by name
come up empty in gentoo bugzilla?


		
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[maxim wexler]

--- Greg Yasko <gyasko@cox.net> wrote:

> Greg Yasko <gyasko <at> cox.net> writes:
>  
> 
> > Login as root and do a "mkdir -p
> /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen"
> > 
> > Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created.
> > 
> 
> Copy the ebuild, which is at gentoo bugzilla under
> app-cdr/dekagen to your
> dekagen directory.
> 
> > Run "ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest" in the
> dekagen directory.
> > 
> > Add "app-cdr/dekagen ~x86" to
> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> > 
> > Finally, do an "emerge dekagen" and it should
> work.

Yow!

dayglo ~ # emerge -pv dekagen

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r1  +nls 58 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-sound/bladeenc-0.94.2-r1  139 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3  5,029 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/flac-1.1.1  +sse +xmms
1,432 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-sound/xmcd-3.3.2  +alsa +encode
+vorbis 1,599 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-cdr/dekagen-1.0.2  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 8,259 kB

Somebody said bloat? Why do I need all this stuff when
it works out of the box simply by running the script?

> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> > -G.Y.
> > 
> 
> Whoops! I forgot to tell you to copy the ebuild to
> it's directory. See above.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 13:54 -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
> 
> --- Greg Yasko <gyasko@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > Greg Yasko <gyasko <at> cox.net> writes:
> >  
> > 
> > > Login as root and do a "mkdir -p
> > /usr/local/portage/app-cdr/dekagen"
> > > 
> > > Then cd to the dekagen directory you just created.
> > > 
> > 
> > Copy the ebuild, which is at gentoo bugzilla under
> > app-cdr/dekagen to your
> > dekagen directory.
> > 
> > > Run "ebuild dekagen-1.0.2.ebuild digest" in the
> > dekagen directory.
> > > 
> > > Add "app-cdr/dekagen ~x86" to
> > /etc/portage/package.keywords
> > > 
> > > Finally, do an "emerge dekagen" and it should
> > work.
> 
> Yow!
> 
> dayglo ~ # emerge -pv dekagen
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/eject-2.0.13-r1  +nls 58 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-sound/bladeenc-0.94.2-r1  139 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.3-r3  5,029 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-libs/flac-1.1.1  +sse +xmms
> 1,432 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-sound/xmcd-3.3.2  +alsa +encode
> +vorbis 1,599 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] app-cdr/dekagen-1.0.2  0 kB
> 
> Total size of downloads: 8,259 kB
> 
> Somebody said bloat? Why do I need all this stuff when
> it works out of the box simply by running the script?

because the ebuild has dragged in every optional dependency of dekagen
including  stuff that isn't actually needed to run it.

dekagen is a console package, but appears to optionally use xmcd which
requires openmotif.

As for the others, well you will have seen from the dekagen docs (and
from running the program) that you can choose rippers and encoders, and
that there are therefore a whole lot of optional dependencies. You can
run it without all of those options installed, you just don't get to use
the ones you don't have (you obviously need a minimum of one ripper and
one encoder for it to do its thing).

for example dekagen can use any of the following to rip cd's: cdda2wav,
cdparanoia, dagrab, or tosha. If you have just one of them installed it
will work. If you want the option of trying them all as backends, you
can install them all (although I am not sure that they are all in
portage).

Same with encoding, you can use any of 8hz-mp3, bladeenc, l3enc, lame,
mp3enc, or notlame, or oggenc.

The docs also say:
You might also wish to install:
"3. xmcd,
4. id3ed, id3tag, id3tool, or mp3info."

I think the ebuild that has been written is dragging them all in whether
you want them or not. The ebuild author admits it is his first ebuild
and that he just copied another one. No criticism to him, but feel free
to fix it :-)

It'll probably end up with a whole lot of use flags, so you can control
it's dependencies. Seems incredible overkill for a 34k shell script.


> 
> > > 
> > > Good luck.
> > > 
> > > -G.Y.
> > > 
> > 
> > Whoops! I forgot to tell you to copy the ebuild to
> > it's directory. See above.
> > 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: no ebuild what to do?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:20:18 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote:

> Since I can't know in advance what
> the bug# is, why does a search for the ebuild by name
> come up empty in gentoo bugzilla?

Because, AFAIK, Bugzilla defaults to only searching open bugs. If you
search for "ALL dekagen" it will search all bugs and find what you need.

You should always use ALL when searching for ebuilds.


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