[gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Ow Mun Heng]

Postfixz-> amavisd-new(Clamav+spamassassin+dspam)->cyrus

I'm wondering how to properly configure dspam. How do I train it? Right
now, seems like spamassassin is working OK, but dspam is well, doesn't.

I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I just
want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've tried
dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't write to
the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as root!!)

Anyone?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Patrick Marquetecken]

> Postfixz-> amavisd-new(Clamav+spamassassin+dspam)->cyrus
>
> I'm wondering how to properly configure dspam. How do I train it? Right
> now, seems like spamassassin is working OK, but dspam is well, doesn't.
>
> I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I just
> want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've tried
> dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't write to
> the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as root!!)
>
> Anyone?

I'm not using dspam only spamassassin and i copy the ham and spam to their
learning mail folders and have every night a script that uses sa-learn.

HTH
Patrick

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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 11:03 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> > Postfixz-> amavisd-new(Clamav+spamassassin+dspam)->cyrus
> >
> > I'm wondering how to properly configure dspam. How do I train it? Right
> > now, seems like spamassassin is working OK, but dspam is well, doesn't.
> >
> > I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I just
> > want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've tried
> > dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't write to
> > the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as root!!)
> >
> > Anyone?
> 
> I'm not using dspam only spamassassin and i copy the ham and spam to their
> learning mail folders and have every night a script that uses sa-learn.

Ah... Well, I'm hoping or rather trying to determine if using Dspam
would be better then running spamassassin. right now, my laptop runs
sedmail+clamav-milter+spamassassin milter and it works great. 

I like dspam mainly because of it's cgi interface and it's quarantine
and it's power to the user concept.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Holly Bostick]

Ow Mun Heng schreef:
> I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I 
> just want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've 
> tried dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't 
> write to the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as 
> root!!)
> 
Stupid question(s) (forgive me, but the "obvious" has to be eliminated):

1) does the directory /var/amavis/.dspam exist? With write permissions
for the owner and/or root? I've gotta say, a hidden directory in /var/ seems
*awful* weird (and pointless).

2) (because the idea of a dotdir in /var seems so weird...) Does dspam
have a config file where this target is set? Have you tried changing
this target to someplace you can write to (as root)?

Further, what are the ownership and permissions of dspam_sa_trainer (I
don't use dspam, but it sounds like one of those servers that makes up a
whole new user who's the only one who can use it, in which case...)?
Have you tried opeing up dspam_sa_trainer in nano or less? Is it
readable by doing so? If so, does looking at what it does help in any way?

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:27 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> Ow Mun Heng schreef:
> > I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I 
> > just want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've 
> > tried dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't 
> > write to the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as 
> > root!!)
> > 
> Stupid question(s) (forgive me, but the "obvious" has to be eliminated):

No.. My mistake for not putting it clearer.
> 
> 1) does the directory /var/amavis/.dspam exist? With write permissions
> for the owner and/or root? I've gotta say, a hidden directory in /var/ seems
> *awful* weird (and pointless).

#ls -ld /var/amavis/
drwxr-x---  7 amavis amavis 4096 Sep 26 15:05 /var/amavis
#ls -ld /var/amavis/.dspam
drwxr-x---   2 amavis root   4096 Sep 26 15:05 .dspam


> 
> 2) (because the idea of a dotdir in /var seems so weird...) Does dspam
> have a config file where this target is set? Have you tried changing
> this target to someplace you can write to (as root)?

Nope. 

Ah.. Now I see the problem.. hehe.. root does not have write
permission!! What a "Homer".

You've been a great help. I was just having one of those days.

(and they say root has all power! Well, obviously not enough over the
user named stupid haha!!)


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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Uwe Thiem]

On 27 September 2005 03:03, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:27 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> > Ow Mun Heng schreef:
> > > I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I
> > > just want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've
> > > tried dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't
> > > write to the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as
> > > root!!)
> >
> > Stupid question(s) (forgive me, but the "obvious" has to be eliminated):
>
> No.. My mistake for not putting it clearer.
>
> > 1) does the directory /var/amavis/.dspam exist? With write permissions
> > for the owner and/or root? I've gotta say, a hidden directory in /var/
> > seems *awful* weird (and pointless).
>
> #ls -ld /var/amavis/
> drwxr-x---  7 amavis amavis 4096 Sep 26 15:05 /var/amavis

The problem is here. root cannot access that directory.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Ow Mun Heng]

On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 09:23 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> On 27 September 2005 03:03, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:27 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> > > Ow Mun Heng schreef:
> > > > I've got a bunch of ham and spam in my mailbox (mbox format) and I
> > > > just want to use it to train it. How do I go about doing that? I've
> > > > tried dspam_sa_trainer but it keeps complaining of errors. (Can't
> > > > write to the /var/amavis/.dspam/ directory, even though I run it as
> > > > root!!)
> > >
> > > Stupid question(s) (forgive me, but the "obvious" has to be eliminated):
> >
> > No.. My mistake for not putting it clearer.
> >
> > > 1) does the directory /var/amavis/.dspam exist? With write permissions
> > > for the owner and/or root? I've gotta say, a hidden directory in /var/
> > > seems *awful* weird (and pointless).
> >
> > #ls -ld /var/amavis/
> > drwxr-x---  7 amavis amavis 4096 Sep 26 15:05 /var/amavis
> 
> The problem is here. root cannot access that directory.


right. Which was what I found out by answering question #2.


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Re: [gentoo-user] DSPAM + How to train?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:14:14 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> > > #ls -ld /var/amavis/
> > > drwxr-x---  7 amavis amavis 4096 Sep 26 15:05 /var/amavis
> > 
> > The problem is here. root cannot access that directory.
 
> right. Which was what I found out by answering question #2.

root should be able to access any directory. I think you'll find dspam
is not running as root but as the dspam user. Add the dspam user to the
amavis group and chmod g+w that directory.


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