From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ED75L-0000md-Rq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:04:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j87Kukld003390; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:56:46 GMT Received: from Princeton.EDU (postoffice01.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.75]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j87Kgq5g026696 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:42:52 GMT Received: from smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.65]) by Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j87KkNJm020762 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sep.dynalias.net (fez.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.190]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtpserver1.Princeton.EDU (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j87KkNsn001966 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sep.dynalias.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 92A2F5E9FCB; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:46:49 -0400 From: Willie Wong To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub over the top of Win XP Message-ID: <20050907204649.GB7625@princeton.edu> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5bdc1c8b0509062140bea5bc6@mail.gmail.com> <1126077831.10169.12.camel@spok.local.sporn-it.com> <20050907085824.12d39715@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <431EA3FF.5020108@gmx.ch> <1126083643.11211.29.camel@spok.local.sporn-it.com> <5bdc1c8b0509071212159f729d@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b0509071212159f729d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: 35255a17-fe1e-4b6c-b1e2-70735d8d0538 X-Archives-Hash: 91635aedd0e6d34ce2f27e1fe8294223 As posted on /. recently, On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:12:21PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > Beyond that I don't pretend to know anything. > > The one thing that always confuses me is the difference between > placing grub in the MBR and placing it in a partition. It is my > understanding that the MBR is a separate part of the drive structure, > and is not part of any partition. Is this true? > > When we place an bootloader in the MBR that's what the system jumps to > first? After that the bootloader in the MBR can transfer to either an > operating system or to a second boot loader. I've done this where I > had a copy of grub from Gentoo in the MBR, and then a copy of grub in > a partition. Each copy had their own grub.conf file and managed it's > own set of kernels, etc. > > However, what Windows does is a bit beyond me. I suppose it places > it's own bootloader in the MBR. We then overwrite it, but then we have > a command to jump to that OS. (chainloader +1 I suppose?) > a good source for some basics on how bootloaders work and why we need them and what the heck MBR actually is: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-bootload.html?ca=dgr-lnxw01LILOandGRUB W -- "If your're scattering a fly off an elephant, you don't worry about the mass of the elephant. But since we're physicists, lets consider the alternate example. In this case, we scatter the elephant off the fly." ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 26 days, 23:48 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list