[gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[William Kenworthy]

Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?
Stable, ~x86 etc?

Used to on the main gentoo site but I cant find it now (and
packages.gentoo.org has no stats at all)

BillK


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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:17:56 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

> Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?
> Stable, ~x86 etc?

You can get the total number of packages with

# find $(portageq portdir) -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d | wc -l
10017

To find the total number of ebuilds for a specific architecture, you'd
have to do something like

# find $(portageq portdir) -name '*.ebuild' -exec grep '^KEYWORDS=.*[^~]x86' {} ';' | wc -l


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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Sergio Polini]

William Kenworthy:
> Is there a link that states how many packages are available in
> gentoo? Stable, ~x86 etc?

Do you speak perl? Sorry, I don't speak python any more ;-)

==== begin gentoo_packages.pl ====
#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use File::Find;
use vars qw/*name/;
*name   = *File::Find::name;

# Your architecture
my $arch = 'x86';
# $uniq == 1 -> nss_ldap-207.ebuild and
# nss_ldap-215-r1.ebuild are the same package
my $uniq = 1;
# $categ == 1 -> package names like 'sys-auth/nss_ldsp'
# $categ == 0 -> package names like 'nss_ldap'
my $categ = 1;
# Output:
my $sfile = 'stable';
my $tfile = 'testing';

my %stable;
my %testing;
my @stable;
my @testing;

find(\&wanted, '/usr/portage');
@stable = sort keys %stable;
@testing = sort keys %testing;
$"="\n";
open OUT, '>'.$sfile or die "Errore opening $sfile: $!\n";
print OUT "@stable\n";
close OUT;
open OUT, '>'.$tfile or die "Errore opening $tfile: $!\n";
print OUT "@testing\n";
close OUT;
print "Done.\n";

sub wanted {
    /^.*\.ebuild\z/s
        && storename($name);
}

sub storename {
    my $fname = $_[0];
    my $shortname;
    my $line;
    my @temp = split('/', $fname);
    print "$fname\n";
    if ($uniq) {
        $temp[5] =~ /(.*)-\d.*ebuild/;
        $temp[5] = $1;
    }
    $shortname = $categ ? $temp[3] . '/' : '';
    $shortname .= $temp[5];
    open EBLD, $fname or die "Error opening $fname: $!\n";
    while ($line=<EBLD>) {
        if ($line =~ /^KEYWORDS/) {
            if ($line =~ /~$arch/) {
                ++$testing{$shortname};
            } elsif ($line =~ /$arch/) {
                ++$stable{$shortname};
            }
            last;
        }
    }
    close EBLD;
}
==== end gentoo_packages.pl ====

Then:
[root ~]# wc stable
  7702   7702 152968 stable
[root ~]# wc testing
 4929  4929 98613 testing

HTH

Sergio

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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Nick Rout]

On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 18:17 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?
> Stable, ~x86 etc?
> 
> Used to on the main gentoo site but I cant find it now (and
> packages.gentoo.org has no stats at all)
> 
> BillK

update-eix reports the number of packages when it finishes - mine tells
me 10,000, but that includes those in overlay.

but are you talking about packages or versions of packages?

for example is this one package or eight?

nick@sf ~ $ eix gentoo-sources
* sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
     Available versions:  2.4.28-r9 ~2.4.31-r1 2.6.9-r9 2.6.12-r4
2.6.12-r6 ~2.6.12-r7 ~2.6.12-r8 2.6.12-r9


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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Philip Webb]

050828 William Kenworthy wrote:
> Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?

When I did my weekly esync yesterday, it indexed  10 350  packages.
'esync' is part of the 'esearch' package.

> Stable, ~x86 etc?

It doesn't distinguish.

If people ask or you want to give the figure in an article somewhere,
the simple answer today is "more than 10 000 ".

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RE: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[John Dangler]

Maybe it's me - I don't get it.
www.gentoo-portage.com

front page ...

19884 ebuilds, 9986 Packages, Last Updated At 18:07:35 GMT

John D

esearch | grep for the particular arch seems to retrieve an accurate number
of packages for that arch, as the OP said previously...

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050828 William Kenworthy wrote:
> Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?

When I did my weekly esync yesterday, it indexed  10 350  packages.
'esync' is part of the 'esearch' package.

> Stable, ~x86 etc?

It doesn't distinguish.

If people ask or you want to give the figure in an article somewhere,
the simple answer today is "more than 10 000 ".

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RE: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[W.Kenworthy]

Not sure that is an official site ...

The question came from a couple of posts where debian is showing ~17000
packages and Fedora a couple of thousand less.  They were bemoaning the
size of the install media.  The difference between distros is most
likely little used packages, and the fact that rpm's for instance split
headers and sometimes aux functions into separate packages,
approximately doubling the package count.  I presume debian do the same.

billk

On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 16:24 -0400, John Dangler wrote:
> Maybe it's me - I don't get it.
> www.gentoo-portage.com
> 
> front page ...
> 
> 19884 ebuilds, 9986 Packages, Last Updated At 18:07:35 GMT
> 
> John D
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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:50:17 +0800
W.Kenworthy wrote:

> Not sure that is an official site ...
> 
> The question came from a couple of posts where debian is showing ~17000
> packages and Fedora a couple of thousand less.  They were bemoaning the
> size of the install media.  The difference between distros is most
> likely little used packages, and the fact that rpm's for instance split
> headers and sometimes aux functions into separate packages,
> approximately doubling the package count.  I presume debian do the same.
> 
> billk

to make a fair comparison then you need to count the number of
.src.rpm's - one .src.rpm makes the -devel and auxillary packages as
well as the main package.





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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Nick Rout]

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 06:50:17 +0800
W.Kenworthy wrote:

> Not sure that is an official site ...
> 
> The question came from a couple of posts where debian is showing ~17000
> packages and Fedora a couple of thousand less.  They were bemoaning the
> size of the install media.  

Don't these people have access to the worldwideintarwebthingy? why
download media you don't need? just install the packages you want over a
network.

Where does the thousands come from with fedora? I count 965 source rpms
on a fedora mirror i looked at.

on the same mirror there were 1483 binary rpm's. of those 299 have
"devel" in the filename, so will have been from a "split" build - ie one
foo.src.rpm may become foo.i386.rpm, foo-devel.i386.rpm,
foo-xorg.i386.rpm, foo-doc.i386.rpm etc.

This filter shows me how many binary rpm's have unique names up the the
first hyphen, :

 grep i386.rpm fedora.filelist |cut -d- -f1|sort|uniq|wc -l

which gives 693 - but I don't know if thats an accurate way to tell if a
built package comes from the same source package.

But my real question is - how do you get thousands of fedora packages?
so you have to scratch around private repositories looking for the ones
with the stuff you want?



>The difference between distros is most
> likely little used packages, and the fact that rpm's for instance split
> headers and sometimes aux functions into separate packages,
> approximately doubling the package count.  I presume debian do the same.

yes they do. usually called -dev rather than -devel from what i can see.

> 
> billk
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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:17:56 +0800 William Kenworthy
<billk@iinet.net.au> wrote:
| Is there a link that states how many packages are available in gentoo?
| Stable, ~x86 etc?

Note that such a number wouldn't be useful for comparing with, say,
other distributions or ports, because a) we can SLOT things, so we
don't need separate foo-1, foo-2 and foo-3 packages, and b) we don't
need to do a zillion foo, foo-python, foo-perl etc packages because of
USE flags.

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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[Michael Crute]

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On 8/29/05, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> Note that such a number wouldn't be useful for comparing with, say,
> other distributions or ports, because a) we can SLOT things, so we
> don't need separate foo-1, foo-2 and foo-3 packages, and b) we don't
> need to do a zillion foo, foo-python, foo-perl etc packages because of
> USE flags.
> 

Some wise person once said that "Its not the size of the tool its how well 
it works." I think that perhaps all this fuss over how many packages are in 
the repository is kind of pointless. The issue is really does it work for 
your use. Sure Fedora may have 6 billion packages but if it lacks the ONE 
packages that you need to do that job and its not easy to create a package 
for it then by golly Fedora isn't very useful. From personal experience I 
find it much easier to create ebuilds for non standard packages than it is 
to create RPMs plus the Portage tree has most of the packages I need by 
default (and as an added bonus I don't have to hunt down a thousand 
dependencies to install a single package).

So instead of comparing raw numbers think about this... Does it work for 
you? In non-standard situations is it easy to get it to do what you want it 
to do? If the answer to both is yes I think that says far more about the 
distro than the size of its repository. Just my $0.02

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] many packages are available in gentoo?

[W.Kenworthy]

The focus isnt on the number of packages per se, but on the size of the
install media that a modern distro requires.  Gentoo (as long as it has
the "coverage") has a natural advantage here in that you only install
what you want to install from the repositories, or from a single,
relatively small CD as far as the basics go.  I believe debian can do
the same, but not as easy as gentoo, but again the discussion was on the
number of CD's that had to be obtained (either by purchase or download)
for a usable install.

BillK


On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 23:47 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
> On 8/29/05, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
>         
>         Note that such a number wouldn't be useful for comparing with,
>         say,
>         other distributions or ports, because a) we can SLOT things,
>         so we
>         don't need separate foo-1, foo-2 and foo-3 packages, and b) we
>         don't
>         need to do a zillion foo, foo-python, foo-perl etc packages
>         because of 
>         USE flags.
> 
> Some wise person once said that "Its not the size of the tool its how
> well it works." I think that perhaps all this fuss over how many
> packages are in the repository is kind of pointless. The issue is
> really does it work for your use. Sure Fedora may have 6 billion
> packages but if it lacks the ONE packages that you need to do that job
> and its not easy to create a package for it then by golly Fedora isn't
> very useful. From personal experience I find it much easier to create
> ebuilds for non standard packages than it is to create RPMs plus the
> Portage tree has most of the packages I need by default (and as an
> added bonus I don't have to hunt down a thousand dependencies to
> install a single package).
> 
> So instead of comparing raw numbers think about this... Does it work
> for you? In non-standard situations is it easy to get it to do what
> you want it to do? If the answer to both is yes I think that says far
> more about the distro than the size of its repository. Just my $0.02
> 
> -Mike
> 
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