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* [gentoo-user] win4lin
@ 2005-08-26  1:47 John Jolet
  2005-08-26  1:54 ` Michael W. Holdeman
  2005-08-26 16:59 ` Ron Bickers
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  1:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain 
windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel 
available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The instructions 
they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge --search finds 
nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the win4lin itself, but 
without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running 2005.1.  I've got 29 days 
left to get my money back :)  though I'd really like this to work.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  1:47 [gentoo-user] win4lin John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  1:54 ` Michael W. Holdeman
  2005-08-26  2:08   ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26 16:59 ` Ron Bickers
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Michael W. Holdeman @ 2005-08-26  1:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The
> instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge
> --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the win4lin
> itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running 2005.1. 
> I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)  though I'd really like this
> to work. --

The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations. I 
think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward, although 
I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with the win4lin 
patch set so far.

Mike

Mike


> John Jolet
> Your On-Demand IT Department
> 512-762-0729
> www.jolet.net
> john@jolet.net

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Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
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Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  1:54 ` Michael W. Holdeman
@ 2005-08-26  2:08   ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:13     ` Michael W. Holdeman
                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  2:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search 
win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be 
searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5 
years, though.

On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched
> > kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?  The
> > instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources, but emerge
> > --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already emerged the
> > win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't work.  Running
> > 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)  though I'd really
> > like this to work. --
>
> The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations. I
> think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward,
> although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with
> the win4lin patch set so far.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike
>
> > John Jolet
> > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > 512-762-0729
> > www.jolet.net
> > john@jolet.net
>
> --
>
> Michael W. Holdeman
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
> Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
> Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com           |
> Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
> ________________________________________|

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:08   ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  2:13     ` Michael W. Holdeman
  2005-08-26  2:20       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:17     ` Mark Knecht
  2005-08-26  2:21     ` Nick Rout
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Michael W. Holdeman @ 2005-08-26  2:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


I'd just get vanilla or even better emerge gentoo-sources 2.6.11? and then go 
to the w4l site and get teh patches for that kernel, the patching is pretty 
simple and described there pretty well, then just build yourself a new kernel 
with the patches and go to town..

Mike

(I'd go to the kernel building howto's, and don't use genkernel. make 
oldconfig, and make menuconfig is your freind after the patching, I have no 
success with 2.6.12 yet tho), 
Try www.pickledonion.net for more info too.

On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:08 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge
> --search win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should
> be searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake
> for 5 years, though.
>
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a
> > > patched kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about
> > > this?  The instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources,
> > > but emerge --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already
> > > emerged the win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't
> > > work.  Running 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :) 
> > > though I'd really like this to work. --
> >
> > The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> > Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources optimizations.
> > I think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty straight foreward,
> > although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series are problematic with
> > the win4lin patch set so far.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > John Jolet
> > > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > > 512-762-0729
> > > www.jolet.net
> > > john@jolet.net
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michael W. Holdeman
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
> > Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
> > Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com           |
> > Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
> > ________________________________________|
>
> --
> John Jolet
> Your On-Demand IT Department
> 512-762-0729
> www.jolet.net
> john@jolet.net

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________________________________________
Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com           |
Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:08   ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:13     ` Michael W. Holdeman
@ 2005-08-26  2:17     ` Mark Knecht
  2005-08-26  2:23       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:45       ` Willie Wong
  2005-08-26  2:21     ` Nick Rout
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2005-08-26  2:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 8/25/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search
> win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be
> searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5
> years, though.
> 

On my Myth frontend machine which hasn't been synced in at least a month:

myth14 ~ # emerge -s win4lin
Searching...
[ Results for search key : win4lin ]
[ Applications found : 2 ]

*  app-emulation/win4lin
      Latest version available: 5.1.1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 5,150 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.netraverse.com/
      Description: Win4Lin allows you run Windows applications
somewhat natively under linux.
      License:     NeTraverse

*  sys-kernel/win4lin-sources
      Latest version available: 2.4.26-r13
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 30,486 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.netraverse.com/
      Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel, with Win4Lin support.
      License:     GPL-2


myth14 ~ #

flash ~ #  emerge -s win4lin
Searching...
[ Results for search key : win4lin ]
[ Applications found : 1 ]

*  app-emulation/win4lin
      Latest version available: 5.1.1
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 5,150 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.netraverse.com/
      Description: Win4Lin allows you run Windows applications
somewhat natively under linux.
      License:     NeTraverse


flash ~ #

Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?

- Mark

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:13     ` Michael W. Holdeman
@ 2005-08-26  2:20       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  7:32         ` Willie Wong
  2005-08-26  7:46         ` Neil Bothwick
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  2:20 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's emerge 
gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:13, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> I'd just get vanilla or even better emerge gentoo-sources 2.6.11? and then
> go to the w4l site and get teh patches for that kernel, the patching is
> pretty simple and described there pretty well, then just build yourself a
> new kernel with the patches and go to town..
>
> Mike
>
> (I'd go to the kernel building howto's, and don't use genkernel. make
> oldconfig, and make menuconfig is your freind after the patching, I have no
> success with 2.6.12 yet tho),
> Try www.pickledonion.net for more info too.
>
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:08 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge
> > --search win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I
> > should be searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and
> > mandrake for 5 years, though.
> >
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 20:54, Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > > On Thursday 25 August 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> > > > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out
> > > > certain windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a
> > > > patched kernel available for this.  Does anyone know anything about
> > > > this?  The instructions they sent me said to emerge win4lin-sources,
> > > > but emerge --search finds nothing answering to this.  I've already
> > > > emerged the win4lin itself, but without the kernel patches, it won't
> > > > work.  Running 2005.1. I've got 29 days left to get my money back :)
> > > > though I'd really like this to work. --
> > >
> > > The Win4Lin-sources appear to be gone?? they used to be there.
> > > Although I usually patch my own kernel for the ck-sources
> > > optimizations. I think the gentoo, or vanilla sources patch pretty
> > > straight foreward, although I'd stick with 2.6.11, as the 2.6.12 series
> > > are problematic with the win4lin patch set so far.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > > John Jolet
> > > > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > > > 512-762-0729
> > > > www.jolet.net
> > > > john@jolet.net
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Michael W. Holdeman
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
> > > Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
> > > Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com           |
> > > Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
> > > ________________________________________|
> >
> > --
> > John Jolet
> > Your On-Demand IT Department
> > 512-762-0729
> > www.jolet.net
> > john@jolet.net
>
> --
>
> Michael W. Holdeman
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org  |
> Kernel 2.6.11-ck8                       |
> Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com           |
> Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com         |
> ________________________________________|

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:08   ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:13     ` Michael W. Holdeman
  2005-08-26  2:17     ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-08-26  2:21     ` Nick Rout
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-08-26  2:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:08:06 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> yeah, well, a new install as of two days ago...it's 2.6.12.  emerge --search 
> win4lin-source turns up nothing.  Is there anothing thing I should be 
> searching for?  I'm kinda new to gentoo, been using redhat and mandrake for 5 
> years, though.


Hell they must have disappeared very recently, i just did 

eix win4lin

and got a result, but after I did update-eix, win4lin-sources has
disappeared!!

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:17     ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-08-26  2:23       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:39         ` Nick Rout
  2005-08-26  2:58         ` Holly Bostick
  2005-08-26  2:45       ` Willie Wong
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  2:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:

>
> Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
>
> - Mark
well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
modules or patches this week.....
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:23       ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  2:39         ` Nick Rout
  2005-08-26  2:44           ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:58         ` Holly Bostick
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-08-26  2:39 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:23:10 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> >
> > Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> >
> > - Mark
> well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
> temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
> modules or patches this week.....

I have just asked on the gentoo-dev mailing list and will let you know
when i get a response.

if you want a plain kernel to patch 

emerge vanilla-sources.

IIRC win4lin only works on 2.4 kernels.



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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:39         ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-08-26  2:44           ` John Jolet
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  2:44 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:39, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:23:10 -0500
>
> John Jolet wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> > >
> > > - Mark
> >
> > well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether
> > it's temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any
> > other modules or patches this week.....
>
> I have just asked on the gentoo-dev mailing list and will let you know
> when i get a response.
>
> if you want a plain kernel to patch
>
> emerge vanilla-sources.
>
> IIRC win4lin only works on 2.4 kernels.
>
> > --
>
> --
> Nick Rout <nick@rout.co.nz>
they have patches for 2.6.11.
how do you emerge a particular version of gentoo-sources...or vanilla-sources, 
for that matter?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:17     ` Mark Knecht
  2005-08-26  2:23       ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  2:45       ` Willie Wong
  2005-08-26  2:52         ` John Jolet
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2005-08-26  2:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 07:17:48PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> 
> - Mark

doubt it. According to the changelog for Win4Lin

# ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
# Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
# $Header:
# /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,v
# 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $

  15 Aug 2005; <plasmaroo@gentoo.org> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
    win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
    win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
    win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
    win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
    win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
  Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.

You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)

W

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:45       ` Willie Wong
@ 2005-08-26  2:52         ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  3:03           ` Mark Knecht
  2005-08-26  3:04           ` Nick Rout
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26  2:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

>
> # ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
> # Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
> # $Header:
> #
> /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,
>v # 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $
>
>   15 Aug 2005; <plasmaroo@gentoo.org> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
>     win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
>     win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
>     win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
>     win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
>     win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
>   Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.
>
> You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
> yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
> do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)
>
> W
I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't 
really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back.  I'm willing to 
downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new 
kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to 
do old ones.

Thanks again, guys.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:23       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  2:39         ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-08-26  2:58         ` Holly Bostick
  2005-08-26 19:08           ` Michael W. Holdeman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Holly Bostick @ 2005-08-26  2:58 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

John Jolet schreef:
> On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> 
>>Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
>>
>>- Mark
> 
> well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether it's 
> temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any other 
> modules or patches this week.....

You guys need to look at b.g.o. more often.

>From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83509:


------ Additional Comment #5 From  Jory A. Pratt  2005-08-15 15:11 PDT
[reply] -------

So  you all know seems bass has stated that he does not have time to
maintain
the win4lin sources I will do my best to get it readded as soon as
possible. I
will also request his permission to update the ebuild for all fixes that
are needed.

OK?

:)

H.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:52         ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  3:03           ` Mark Knecht
  2005-08-26  3:19             ` Nick Rout
  2005-08-26  3:04           ` Nick Rout
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2005-08-26  3:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 8/25/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
> >
> > # ChangeLog for app-emulation/win4lin
> > # Copyright 2002-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
> > # $Header:
> > #
> > /var/www/www.gentoo.org/raw_cvs/gentoo-x86/app-emulation/win4lin/ChangeLog,
> >v # 1.22 2005/08/15 16:51:48 plasmaroo Exp $
> >
> >   15 Aug 2005; <plasmaroo@gentoo.org> win4lin-4.0.12.ebuild,
> >     win4lin-4.0.16.ebuild, win4lin-4.0.20.ebuild,
> >     win4lin-4.0.22.ebuild,
> >     win4lin-5.0.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.0.4.ebuild,
> >     win4lin-5.0.8.ebuild,
> >     win4lin-5.1.1.ebuild, win4lin-5.1.ebuild:
> >   Remove winkernel/win4lin-sources DEPEND.
> >
> > You should just go to win4lin.com and download the kernel patch
> > yourself. The Readme.txt file does an okay job of telling you what to
> > do. But you do need to downgrade to 2.6.11.x (instead of 2.6.12)
> >
> > W
> I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't
> really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back.  I'm willing to
> downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new
> kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to
> do old ones.
> 
> Thanks again, guys.

Like this:

flash ~ #  emerge -pv  =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9  -build -doc
-symlink (-ultra1) 35,615 kB

Total size of downloads: 35,615 kB
flash ~ #

However first do

slocate gentoo-sources | grep ebuild

and make sure you have an ebuild for the kernel you are intersted in.
It may be gone. I have no 2.6.11 ebuilds anymore....

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:52         ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  3:03           ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-08-26  3:04           ` Nick Rout
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-08-26  3:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:52:11 -0500
John Jolet wrote:

> >
> >
> > W
> I appreciate everyone's help with this, but that changelog entry doesn't 
> really tell me why it's gone and that it won't come back. 

No it just tells you that the dependency has been removed, so the
assumption has been made ...

> I'm willing to 
> downgrade to 2.6.11, if someone can tell me how.  I can see how to emerge new 
> kernel sources, but can't find a reference in the emerge docs that say how to 
> do old ones.
> 

if you want a precise version you need to put an = sign in front of the
package name, like:

emerge =vanilla-sources-2.6.11.12



> Thanks again, guys.
> -- 
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> Your On-Demand IT Department
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  3:03           ` Mark Knecht
@ 2005-08-26  3:19             ` Nick Rout
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-08-26  3:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

how about eix gentoo-sources ?

but in fact if he wants to cleanly apply outside patches he may be
better to use vanilla-sources

There seem to be 2.6.11's in vanilla-sources


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:03:34 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:

> However first do
> 
> slocate gentoo-sources | grep ebuild
> 
> and make sure you have an ebuild for the kernel you are intersted in.
> It may be gone. I have no 2.6.11 ebuilds anymore....

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:20       ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26  7:32         ` Willie Wong
  2005-08-26  7:46         ` Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2005-08-26  7:32 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 09:20:11PM -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's emerge 
> gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

hum, that's funny, I was going to tell you

 emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.11

but equery list -p gentoo-sources shows there are no longer any 2.6.11
kernel in gentoo-sources. You best bets are

 emerge =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.9-r9

or

 emerge =sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6.11.11

Note that the patches on Win4Lin's website are version specific. 

W
-- 
"This is advertised as a challenging course, and we would be letting you down 
if we didn't make your lives difficult."
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:20       ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26  7:32         ` Willie Wong
@ 2005-08-26  7:46         ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-08-26 11:47           ` John Jolet
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-08-26  7:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:

> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?

emerge -av "<gentoo-sources-2.6.12" 

will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.

emerge -av "<vanilla-sources-2.6.12" 

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  7:46         ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-08-26 11:47           ` John Jolet
  2005-08-26 16:03             ` Kevin O'Gorman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: John Jolet @ 2005-08-26 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user


On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
>
>
>> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
>> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?
>>
>
> emerge -av "<gentoo-sources-2.6.12"
>
> will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
> revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.
>
> emerge -av "<vanilla-sources-2.6.12"
Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the  
vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them  
for a reason.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26 11:47           ` John Jolet
@ 2005-08-26 16:03             ` Kevin O'Gorman
  2005-08-26 17:15               ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-08-26 19:05               ` Michael W. Holdeman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Kevin O'Gorman @ 2005-08-26 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 8/26/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> >
> >
> >> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> >> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?
> >>
> >
> > emerge -av "<gentoo-sources-2.6.12"
> >
> > will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
> > revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.
> >
> > emerge -av "<vanilla-sources-2.6.12"
> Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the
> vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them
> for a reason.

There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
who actually
got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
around?  For instance,
I seem to have

linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
linux-2.6.11.11
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5

of which I seem to be actually running (according to uname)
2.6.12-gentoo-r6-kosmanor #1 SMP

Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided anyone
would trust me not to be malicious).

++ kevin



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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  1:47 [gentoo-user] win4lin John Jolet
  2005-08-26  1:54 ` Michael W. Holdeman
@ 2005-08-26 16:59 ` Ron Bickers
  2005-08-26 17:21   ` Kevin O'Gorman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Ron Bickers @ 2005-08-26 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user; +Cc: John Jolet

On Thu August 25 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:

> I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?

I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using as an 
overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be happy to 
share if anyone is interested.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26 16:03             ` Kevin O'Gorman
@ 2005-08-26 17:15               ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-08-26 19:05               ` Michael W. Holdeman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-08-26 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:03:49 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
> who actually
> got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
> around?  For instance,
> I seem to have
> 
> linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.11.11
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
> linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5
> 
> Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided
> anyone would trust me not to be malicious).

You already have the ebuild if it is installed, in /var/db/pkg. Portage
needs to keep the ebuilds of installed packages in order to uninstall
them.

There is an area on the Gentoo CVS server that hold old ebuilds removed
from portage.


-- 
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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26 16:59 ` Ron Bickers
@ 2005-08-26 17:21   ` Kevin O'Gorman
  2005-08-26 19:01     ` Ron Bickers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 26+ messages in thread
From: Kevin O'Gorman @ 2005-08-26 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 8/26/05, Ron Bickers <rbickers-list-gentoo-user@logicetc.com> wrote:
> On Thu August 25 2005 09:47 pm, John Jolet wrote:
> 
> > I've purchased the win4lin product, (the home version) to test out certain
> > windows apps I need to run.  They claim that gentoo has a patched kernel
> > available for this.  Does anyone know anything about this?
> 
> I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using as an
> overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be happy to
> share if anyone is interested.

Yes please.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26 17:21   ` Kevin O'Gorman
@ 2005-08-26 19:01     ` Ron Bickers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Ron Bickers @ 2005-08-26 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Kevin O'Gorman

On Fri August 26 2005 01:21 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:

> > I have a modified gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r11 ebuild that I've been using
> > as an overlay and it's been working fine for me for months.  I'll be
> > happy to share if anyone is interested.
>
> Yes please.

Ok.  You can get the ebuild tree sys-kernel/win4lin-sources from here:

http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/win4lin-sources.tar.bz2

Also, it appears the base and extras for that version are no longer 
available, so you'll need to put them in /usr/portage/distfiles; the rest of 
the needed sources can still be fetched.

http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/genpatches-2.6.11-14.base.tar.bz2
http://www.logicetc.com/~rbickers/genpatches-2.6.11-14.extras.tar.bz2

Let me know if anything is broken.

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26 16:03             ` Kevin O'Gorman
  2005-08-26 17:15               ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-08-26 19:05               ` Michael W. Holdeman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Michael W. Holdeman @ 2005-08-26 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Friday 26 August 2005 12:03 pm, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> On 8/26/05, John Jolet <john@jolet.net> wrote:
> > On Aug 26, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:20:11 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
> > >> okay, I was wondering how to get the other kernel versions.  it's
> > >> emerge gentoo-sources (space) 2.6.11 is it?
> > >
> > > emerge -av "<gentoo-sources-2.6.12"
> > >
> > > will get you the latest version prior to 2.6.11, which is a 2.6.9
> > > revision for gentoo-sources. 2.6.11 is still in vanilla sources.
> > >
> > > emerge -av "<vanilla-sources-2.6.12"
> >
> > Thanks guys.  One last question...what's the drawback to using the
> > vanilla sources?  I'm assuming gentoo-sources were patched from them
> > for a reason.
>
> There is much here I don't understand.  Isn't it possible for someone
> who actually
> got one of the missing ebuilds to re-build an ebuild and pass it
> around?  For instance,
> I seem to have
>
> linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.11.11
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r4
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r6
> linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9
> linux-2.6.7-gentoo-r11
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r2
> linux-2.6.7-win4lin-r5
>
> of which I seem to be actually running (according to uname)
> 2.6.12-gentoo-r6-kosmanor #1 SMP
>
> Isn't it possible to package one of these and share it?  (Provided anyone
> would trust me not to be malicious).
Kevin,
Did you successfully patch that kernel for win4lin?

Mike
>
> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

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* Re: [gentoo-user] win4lin
  2005-08-26  2:58         ` Holly Bostick
@ 2005-08-26 19:08           ` Michael W. Holdeman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 26+ messages in thread
From: Michael W. Holdeman @ 2005-08-26 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 25 August 2005 10:58 pm, Holly Bostick wrote:
> John Jolet schreef:
> > On Thursday 25 August 2005 21:17, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>Maybe it's just an oversight and temporarily gone?
> >>
> >>- Mark
> >
> > well, it's definately gone now.  can someone comment on why and whether
> > it's temporary?  I'd prefer not to try to remember if've installed any
> > other modules or patches this week.....
>
> You guys need to look at b.g.o. more often.
>
> From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83509:
>
>
> ------ Additional Comment #5 From  Jory A. Pratt  2005-08-15 15:11 PDT
> [reply] -------
>
> So  you all know seems bass has stated that he does not have time to
> maintain
> the win4lin sources I will do my best to get it readded as soon as
> possible. I
> will also request his permission to update the ebuild for all fixes that
> are needed.
>
> OK?
>
> :)
>
> H.

Sounds great to me Holly! (but then I just melt at anything you say anyway:O))

Althought I think the 2.6.12's are maybe a bit of a problem, at least trying 
to patch the ck-sources I use are a problem after 2.6.11, I can't get them 
going. I'm still stuck with 2.6.11-ck8.

Mike

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