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From: "Markus Döbele" <mar_doe@gmx.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Lost Labyrinth
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:15:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200508242215.11163.mar_doe@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200508242011.13118.uwix@iway.na>

Sometimes even programming should be allowed to be a bit of fun :-)
And the users profit of it too, because my programs there never hangs 
themselves up!

In the C Version we could always game as far as somebody found the bug. The 
mightiest monster in the Labyrinth :-))))))


Am Mittwoch, 24. August 2005 21:11 schrieb Uwe Thiem:
> On 24 August 2005 18:34, A. Khattri wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Markus [utf-8] Döbele wrote:
> > > The code I think is not the problem. But I think it is still a lot of
> > > work. By the way I don't like C too much (we had a C Version once and
> > > only encountered problems all the time :-( Buffer overflows and all
> > > this nice stuff is a big problem of this language!)
> >
> > You mean it requires understanding pointers and attention to detail?
> >
> > Yes it does.
> >
> > An assembly programmer should find C easy (well I did anyway).
> >
> > > I started as a Assembler Programmer on the Atari ST (68000 Rulez!!!)
> >
> > I started on the 6502, then 68000 then 8086...
>
> Donning my asbestos suit. Cannot resist the flamebait any more. I did
> assembler for 6502, Z80, 8085,... I am talking about real-world, commercial
> software with several MB of assembler source. Like software for driverless
> vehicles buzzing around in real plants among real workers.
>
> That said, once man made fire by twisting a little twig between hands while
> pressing it to some other wood. I prefer matches or a lighter. Even when in
> the bush, I prefer some fire starters I can buy. Man (actually Woman in
> most cases) once carried water in calabashes on their heads for miles on
> end. I prefer pumps and pipes and taps. Programmers once punched their code
> and their data into punchcards, handed them in to the data centre and hoped
> all would go well. I prefer editors, IDEs, compilers and linkers. ;-)
>
> Folks, we have got computing power on our desks that equals that of a
> medium sized data centre 10 years ago. Of course, I want the bloody
> computer and its tools to do all the sidetracking little tasks and
> concentrate myself on algorithms and data structures and user interfaces.
>
> If I could find enough buddies and peers I would do most of my stuff in
> languages like smalltalk that take care of freeing memory, collecting
> garbage and such. Again: That said, I still use C/C++ for most of my stuff.
>
> In short: Don't scuff someone who tries to avoid the pitfalls of C/C++ by
> using a language that does all those little things for them. Sure, I
> wouldn't use any dialect of basic but that is another issue.
>
> Uwe
> (hiding behind his desk)
>
> --
> 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software
> developers. - Linus Torvalds
>
> http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004)

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-24 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-22  5:06 [gentoo-user] Lost Labyrinth Markus Döbele
2005-08-22  5:40 ` Nick Rout
2005-08-22  6:54   ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22  7:01     ` Martin Marcher
2005-08-22  7:17       ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 19:58       ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22  7:10     ` Wayne Clement
2005-08-22  7:21       ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22  8:54         ` Wayne Clement
2005-08-22 10:06           ` Nick Rout
2005-08-22 11:40             ` Martins Steinbergs
2005-08-22 11:56               ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 20:15               ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22 10:07           ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 20:05             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22 20:52               ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 21:42                 ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  0:05                   ` Nick Rout
2005-08-23  1:25                     ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  5:13                       ` Nick Rout
2005-08-23  5:36                         ` Nick Rout
2005-08-23  6:31                           ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-23  7:04                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  8:38                             ` Nick Rout
2005-08-23  9:02                               ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-23  7:03                           ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23 20:02                     ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23 20:27                       ` Nick Rout
2005-08-23 21:48                         ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  1:58                           ` Nick Rout
2005-08-24  8:06                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  8:49                               ` Nick Rout
2005-08-24 11:41                                 ` Nick Rout
2005-08-24 20:42                                   ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-25  0:53                                     ` [gentoo-user] ebuild for " Nick Rout
2005-08-25 14:05                                       ` Alec Shaner
2005-08-25 19:53                                         ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-25 20:50                                           ` Alec Shaner
2005-08-25 22:24                                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-25 23:36                                               ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-26  0:14                                                 ` Nick Rout
2005-08-26  4:21                                                   ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-28 19:56                                                   ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-29  1:51                                                     ` Nick Rout
2005-08-29  2:30                                                       ` Nick Rout
2005-08-29 14:35                                                         ` Alec Shaner
2005-08-29 15:36                                                           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-29 15:44                                                             ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-29 16:49                                                               ` Greg Bengeult
2005-08-29 19:40                                                                 ` Nick Rout
2005-08-29 19:47                                                                   ` Greg Bengeult
2005-08-29 20:54                                                                     ` Nick Rout
2005-09-01 21:10                                                                       ` Markus Döbele
2005-09-04 21:48                                                                       ` Markus Döbele
2005-09-05 11:16                                                                         ` Nick Rout
2005-09-06  1:59                                                                           ` Nick Rout
2005-09-11 23:56                                                                             ` "Markus Döbele"
2005-09-12  0:19                                                                               ` Nick Rout
2005-10-01  9:31                                                                       ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-29 17:01                                                             ` Alec Shaner
2005-08-29 18:15                                                               ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-26  4:20                                                 ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-25 22:29                                           ` Nick Rout
2005-08-26  4:15                                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  6:33                   ` [gentoo-user] " Frank Schafer
2005-08-23  7:06                     ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  7:43                       ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-23  8:04                         ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-23 14:47                           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-23 19:39                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  6:07                             ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-23 19:34                           ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23 19:29                         ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-23  7:57                       ` Heinz Sporn
2005-08-23 19:31                         ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  6:39                           ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-24  7:13                             ` Matan Peled
2005-08-24  7:41                               ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-24  8:09                                 ` Matan Peled
2005-08-24  8:25                                   ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-24  9:30                                     ` Frank Schafer
2005-08-24 20:04                                       ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24 20:00                                     ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  8:13                               ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24  8:12                             ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24 12:22                               ` Matan Peled
2005-08-24 20:09                                 ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-24 17:34                               ` A. Khattri
2005-08-24 19:11                                 ` Uwe Thiem
2005-08-24 20:15                                   ` Markus Döbele [this message]
2005-08-25 15:56                                   ` A. Khattri
2005-08-24 20:10                                 ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22 10:15           ` Nick Rout
2005-08-22 10:29           ` Martins Steinbergs
2005-08-24  3:53       ` A. Khattri
2005-08-22 19:57   ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22 12:10 ` Christoph Gysin
2005-08-22 13:48   ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 14:53     ` Christoph Gysin
2005-08-22 16:40       ` Matan Peled
2005-08-22 17:41         ` John Dangler
2005-08-22 20:28           ` Markus Döbele
2005-08-22 20:24         ` Markus Döbele
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2005-08-22 15:22 Covington, Chris

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