From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E7t6A-0005y3-Jg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:07:15 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7OB4Id0004302; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:04:18 GMT Received: from muriandre.homelinux.org (201-255-191-99.mrse.com.ar [201.255.191.99] (may be forged)) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7OAvLNx017763 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:57:22 GMT Received: from conan by muriandre.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1E7t6x-00023A-Du for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:08:03 -0300 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:08:03 -0300 From: Fernando Canizo <conan@lugmen.org.ar> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] why gentoo doesn't have long description? Message-ID: <20050824110803.GA4532@lugmen.org.ar> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20050823112654.GA31003@lugmen.org.ar> <20050823224756.667089f1@snowdrop.home> <558b73fb05082320393c29effc@mail.gmail.com> <430C1848.7020609@gmail.com> <430C1B43.9040108@sdf-eu.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <430C1B43.9040108@sdf-eu.org> X-GNU-Propaganda: In a world without walls, who needs Gates and Windows? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i Sender: <conan@lugmen.org.ar> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id j7OB4IdJ004302 X-Archives-Salt: 6031ee84-21cf-4e54-a487-208a62a10143 X-Archives-Hash: 8a40acd0fea9059171be2d34b0fd632f El 24/ago/2005 a las 04:01 -0300, Jonas me dec=EDa: > >Second, the whole idea is to do this for non-connected systems. Meanin= g, a > >solution not involving the Internet... =3D) > If you're refering to the fact that the person doesn't have an internet= =20 > connection when he wants to view this information throught the emerge=20 > interface, then you're wrong. When you want to install or you're just=20 > searching for a package you're using the emerge interface , when you=20 > need more info you have to 1) open your browser 2) type in the url (if=20 > you're lucky you know the url or it's in your browsers cache) 3) search= =20 > for the package on the website , while instead you could just do=20 > something like emerge --desc package. Now what's quicker and makes more= =20 > sence ? Exactly! That's what i'm refering to. It's not an issues of connection it= 's an issue of lazyness! It's like: "-- hey what are you doing this weekend? --= don't know, it's cold and raining, i think i'm gonna sit in my throne and check= what's new on 'app-vim' to improve my vimyness, if find something interesting i'= ll check the package webpage." For now i'm using 'questo': =3D=3D=3D script =3D=3D=3D=3D #!/bin/bash # lun may 2 20:57:24 ART 2005 # conan - GPLed # # script to check for apps on rainy sunday morning BASE_DIR=3D"/usr/portage/" [ $# -ne 1 ] && echo "Uso: questo <category>" && exit 0 cd $BASE_DIR$1 for package in * ; do eix "^$paquete\$" echo "Looking for: $1/$paquete. ENTER to continue..." read done =3D=3D=3D end script =3D=3D=3D=3D Now i took sugestion from Ciaran to look in metadata.xml, i check a coupl= e by hand and see the 'longdesc' field but... with short descriptions! Now may= be i just choose two with bad luck, but i got a feeling that gentoo maintainer= s doesn't like to provide longdesc, although there is the posibility. I was thinking of doing a little script that gives longdesc found in meta= data to confirm this, but since i don't know nothing about xml, think it gonna ta= ke a little bit more that if there were already an application to check 'metad= ata.xml' fields. 'emerge', 'equery' and 'eix' wich are the administration tools i = use everyday don't say nothing about this, i think all of them use de descrip= tion field in ebuilds. I wonder if somebody knows another app to do this? If not, the idea of the script is more less this: lslongdesc package|category|all where: - 'package' gives longdesc of package - 'category' gives longdesc of all packages in category - and 'all' gives them all flooding your screen with info you never gonna= eat... but that is there. It's so simple that i'm sure there must be an app (or compound of them) t= hat already do this. --=20 Fernando Canizo - http://www.lugmen.org.ar/~conan/ Olmstead's Law: After all is said and done, a hell of a lot more is said than done. --=20 gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list