From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E6vyx-0006uw-NN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:59:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7LJvXot021306; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:57:33 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.12]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7LJqFkc004454 for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:52:15 GMT Received: from amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 473F7293DBF for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:52:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tu-clausthal.de (hathor.rz.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.2.1]) by amun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248802D09DA for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from energy.heim10.tu-clausthal.de ([139.174.241.94] verified) by tu-clausthal.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTP id 7229035 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:52:42 +0200 From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD recorder recommendations Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:52:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <9acccfe50508182123235014b5@mail.gmail.com> <200508211725.46484.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> <9acccfe5050821115435e9426f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9acccfe5050821115435e9426f@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200508212152.43259.volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by PureMessage V4.7 at tu-clausthal.de X-Spam-Level: * (26%, 'BAYES_90_100 3, __CD 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CTYPE_CHARSET_QUOTED 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0') X-Archives-Salt: 73d730a2-1844-478e-8668-64b58bcf0482 X-Archives-Hash: 820fd1f84b37627bd05c783afdc4dc0d On Sunday 21 August 2005 20:54, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > On 8/21/05, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Sunday 21 August 2005 16:35, Thomas Kirchner wrote: > > > * On Aug 21 15:37, Volker Armin Hemmann (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) > > > > wrote: > > > > it has to, because all tests I read said, that Plextor burns a lot of > > > > errors onto the dvds... so they have to have a good error-correction, > > > > or they would not be able to read their own stuff. > > > > > > Not sure I buy that. I've used my Plextor-burned discs in plenty of > > > other computers and they haven't had any trouble reading them, either. > > > They didn't earn their reputation for quality by making coasters. > > > Tom > > > > I do not own a plextor, but I trust the c't magazine which did a lot of > > dvd-burner tests and Plextor is one of the burners which like to write > > fast, but with a lot of errors. > > > > Only because the dvdr does not make problems now, it does not mean, that > > it will not make problems in the future, when some scratches are > > accumulated. > > > > But... LG was much worse.. ;) > > Hmmm. While warnings about particular brands might be of some help, I > would much prefer to see the make/model of comparably priced items that > were rated good. I'm trying to buy, after all, not discard existing stuff. > > Nevertheless, this is helpful (I think) because I was starting to lean > towards a Plextor PX-740A-BP OEM drive. Now I'll wait to see what others > say. to be honest, none of the tested writers were perfect. Some had problems with -r, some with +r, some burned good at low speeds but badly on higher ones - and most of these tried to burn as fast as possible, resulting in high error counts. You should visit some websites dedicated to dvd(rw) tests, and/or read some good magazine - not ones, who are giving 'best products' awards and say ' good results on matsabanony (to make up a totally random name)' but don't say, that you cannot buy this blanks in 95% of the world and totally not say that this device sucks with every other brand, but magazines, that test about a wide range of blanks, and explain every bit about their testing, how they detect&count the errors, differences between the errors, how many errors are allowed to be within the specs, geometric errors of the blanks etc pp. Don't look at awards, look at the important fact: does this writer does it job well with the blanks you can buy around the corner? Does it a good job at the sppeds I want to use? Does it burn the type dvd-'standard', I want to use(-r, +r, -rw,+rw,dl,-ram)? How much do you want to pay? Friends are not always a good source.. only because they haven't discovered the hidden traps of accumulated errors, does not mean, that you won't, so read tests and decide for yourself - oh, and firmware updates are important too. Luckily there are almost always dostools availabe, not always from the vendor, but... After that, you'll find the perfect burner for you. It may not the perfect burner for someone else, but that is ok - everybody has his own needs. -ram people are pretty stuck to LG and are able to deal with it ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list