RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:

I changed it to
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I saved the file and ran /etc/init.d/alsasound restart and got this:

Loading ALSA modules ...
Loading snd-card-0 ...
FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.		[!!]
Loading snd=seq-oss ...				[OK]
Loading snd-pcm-oss ...				[OK]
ERROR: Failed to load necessary drivers	[OK]
Restoring mixer levels ...			[OK]


yes, that's an underscore in the FATAL message

(and, of course, after this, alsamixer fails)

Any input is greatly appreciated.

John D


-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:ce@christeck.de] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config

Hi,


> I've tried modifying the conf file for this by putting in
> snd-intel8x0, but the system isn't reading it for some reason.  do I
> need to unmerge alsa-driver and start again ?

you only need the alsa drivers if

* you're still on 2.4 kernels
* you haven't activated the in-kernel drivers in your 2.6 kernel

I use the drivers of the 2.6 kernel and am just happy with it.

Check the following:

* The config file is /etc/modules.d/alsa

* Mine contains something like

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

options snd  device_mode=0666

alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

and it works. There are no further ALSA driver configuration files.

After this, try

/etc/init.d/alsasound restart

Use alsamixer in a console window to adjust the settings. Ensure master 
is open and PCM is unmuted and open.


Best regards & good luck,


    ce


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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Joe Menola]

On Saturday August 20 2005 2:42 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
> alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
>
> I changed it to
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I had the same problem (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support 
enabled), after fixing my alsa file I couldn't track down where the call for 
the snd-*** was coming from.
My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then rerunning 
alsaconf.

-jm
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Christoph Eckert]

> FATAL: Module snd_*** not found.                [!!]

this means your kernel did not build this module. I wonder because it's 
needed on many machines with an onboard chipset.

Well, there are two possibilities, enable this module in the kernel, 
rebuild and install the modules (attention, this will delete all nvidia 
or vmware modules), or try building this driver manually and copy it 
over to the modules directory.


Best regards


    ce


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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

Joe~
>>(caused by running alsaconf with kernel support enabled),
>> My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then
rerunning alsaconf.

if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused the
problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would you
rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ?  wouldn't that cause the same
problem to occur twice?

Thanks for the input.

John D

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Menola [mailto:menola@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:18 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 2:42 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> my /etc/modules.d/alsa file contained this (after alsaconf)
> alias snd-card-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-*** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
>
> I changed it to
> alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

I had the same problem (caused by running alsaconf with kernel support 
enabled), after fixing my alsa file I couldn't track down where the call for

the snd-*** was coming from.
My solution was to recompile my kernel with module support and then
rerunning 
alsaconf.

-jm
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Joe Menola]

On Saturday August 20 2005 4:27 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused
> the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would
> you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ?  wouldn't that cause the
> same problem to occur twice?
>
> Thanks for the input.

My recompiled kernel didn't have alsa built-in, it was compiled as a module. 
Which is what alsaconf expects. 

-jm

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

Joe~
That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)


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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Menola [mailto:menola@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:40 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 4:27 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> if you had kernel support built-in, and running alsaconf was what caused
> the problem (which I think is what caused this problem as well), why would
> you rerun alsaconf after recompiling the kernel ?  wouldn't that cause the
> same problem to occur twice?
>
> Thanks for the input.

My recompiled kernel didn't have alsa built-in, it was compiled as a module.

Which is what alsaconf expects. 

-jm

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Joe Menola]

On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> Joe~
> That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)

Hmmm, no reason for alsaconf to fail then. Unless you skipped/forgot "make 
modules_install?
What say "modprobe intel8x0" ?

-jm

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Joe Menola]

On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> Joe~
> That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)

Just peeked at my config, looks like alsa also has to be modular, as well.

# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

Yep. That's what mine has as well.  I did try modprobe intel8x0 and got
this:
FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found

I appreciate your assistance.  This is the last thing to get the basic
system running... :)

Since both the driver and the kernel compile can't cooperate when both are
on the system, I was wondering if unmerging the alsa-driver, re-compile the
kernel with the existing sound modules, and then re-running alsaconf
wouldn't fix this (?)

John D


-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Menola [mailto:menola@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:22 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

On Saturday August 20 2005 5:02 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> Joe~
> That's what my .config has now (CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m)

Just peeked at my config, looks like alsa also has to be modular, as well.

# Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
#
CONFIG_SND=m
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Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Michael Kintzios]

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> From:: "John Dangler" <jdangler@atlantic.net>
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:59:46 -0400

> My .config has -
> CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m

and lsmod shows it as loaded, right?
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Christoph Eckert]

> Yep. That's what mine has as well.  I did try modprobe intel8x0 and
> got this:
> FATAL: Module intel8x0 not found

note that *all* ALSA modules are prefixed by "snd_". The correct command 
reads as "modprobe snd_intel8x0".


Best regards


    ce


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RE: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[John Dangler]

Mike~
As a matter of fact, no.  all the other snd_ modules show, but not intel8x0

Thanks for the assistance.  This is beginning to give me a slight
headache...

John D



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:michaelkintzios@lycos.co.uk] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 6:44 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

> From:: "John Dangler" <jdangler@atlantic.net>
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:59:46 -0400

> My .config has -
> CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0=m

and lsmod shows it as loaded, right?
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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Joe Menola]

On Saturday August 20 2005 6:13 pm, John Dangler wrote:
> Mike~
> As a matter of fact, no.  all the other snd_ modules show, but not intel8x0
>
> Thanks for the assistance.  This is beginning to give me a slight
> headache...

You will still need alsa-drivers if you have built snd_intel8x0 as a module. 
You just need to get the module installed, that's my story and I'm sticking 
to it. :)
I would try running "make && make modules_install" from your kernel sources 
directory. Then try modprobe snd_intel8x0 again. If that turns up ok, run 
alsaconf again and you should be all set.

-jm

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Christoph Eckert]

> /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
> Curiously enough, there is also this file located here -
> /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko

just a guess:

The intel should be AC 97 compliant, but it is well known that standards 
are there to be beaten. Maybe the intel chip doesn't conform enough to 
AC 97 so it git its own module...


Best regards


    ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help

[Rumen Yotov]

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Michael Kintzios wrote:

> 
>  
>
>>From:: "John Dangler" <jdangler@atlantic.net>
>>To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>>Subject: RE: RE: [gentoo-user] alsa config - help
>>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:17:36 -0400
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>Nick~
>>I found an instance of the module here - 
>>/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/snd-intel8x0.ko
>>Curiously enough, there is also this file located here - 
>>/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/alsa-driver/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.ko
>>
>>lspci shows the multimedia controller as Intel AC'97 ...
>>    
>>
>
>It seems that intel8x0 is your driver: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+i820&module=intel8x0
>
>Remove the module (which does not appear to have been installed, or loaded) reconfigure your kernel and built it in (not as a module), reboot and see what dmesg gives you.  If you follow carefully the alsa guide you 'should' get there.
>  
>
Hi,
Note that alsa-driver (not the in-kernel one) is a kernel-module
(depends on the link to your current kernel-source directory -
/usr/src/linux), so to resume after a new kernel install you'll have to
re-emerge alsa-driver. Just a note.
HTH Rumen

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