[gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Stefan Onken]

Hello,

is anyone using a Palm Tungsten T5 under Gentoo and Udev ? I tried 
google up and down, read tons of docs and howtos, but I can get it 
to work. Any real life experience would be very helpful.

cu
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Nick Rout]

no but I have used a treo 600 and it works fine.

whats more i found this last night:

http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html

(near the bottom)

which also points to this:

http://www.clasohm.com/blog/one-entry?entry%5fid=12096

I am yet to set up any udev rules for it. Some points to note:

1. unlike many usb devices plugging a palm device in is insufficient to
get the kernel and udev and hotlpug to do anything. you need to push the
hotsync button.

2. you then get two devices (well on the treo anyway) - something like
ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1 - only one of them is any good, the odd one. They
may not be in the top level of /dev, but in some subdirectory.  find and
the kernel logs are your friends.

3. sometimes the next time you press the button the kernel assigns
ttyUSB2 and ttyUSB3 which is annoying, and had me stumped for a while. A
udev rule pointing to /dev/pilot (as proposed by Daniel Drake and
Carsten Clasohm) should fix that. I look forward to implementing it.

I am assuming that there is nothing in the tungsten 5 that changes any
of that, if there is I apologise for wasting your time, and can be of no
further assistance.


On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:56:33 +0200
Stefan Onken wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> is anyone using a Palm Tungsten T5 under Gentoo and Udev ? I tried 
> google up and down, read tons of docs and howtos, but I can get it 
> to work. Any real life experience would be very helpful.
> 
> cu
> stonki
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Heinz Sporn]

Hi!

Got a Tungsten E. Can't say that getting it run worked like a charm. But
now it works fine with Gnome / Evolution.

Regards

spox

Am Donnerstag, den 11.08.2005, 17:56 +0200 schrieb Stefan Onken:
> Hello,
> 
> is anyone using a Palm Tungsten T5 under Gentoo and Udev ? I tried 
> google up and down, read tons of docs and howtos, but I can get it 
> to work. Any real life experience would be very helpful.
> 
> cu
> stonki
> 
> 
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> www.krename.net
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> www.proftpd.de
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Stefan Onken]

Am Freitag, 12. August 2005 08:35 schrieb Heinz Sporn:
> Hi!
>
> Got a Tungsten E. Can't say that getting it run worked like a
> charm. But now it works fine with Gnome / Evolution.

are you using udev ? If so please email me your rules.d/*.conf.. It 
still not working :(

very frustrating...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Stefan Onken]

Am Freitag, 12. August 2005 04:58 schrieb Nick Rout:

> http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
]...]

> 1. unlike many usb devices plugging a palm device in is
> insufficient to get the kernel and udev and hotlpug to do
> anything. you need to push the hotsync button.
>
> 2. you then get two devices (well on the treo anyway) - something
> like ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1 - only one of them is any good, the odd
> one. They may not be in the top level of /dev, but in some
> subdirectory.  find and the kernel logs are your friends.

well, I am using:

BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="504E35424D42583456354E35", 
KERNEL="ttyUSB[1357]",  SYMLINK="pilot"


some seconds after I am connecting the Palm (without pressing any 
hotsync button !!! ) I am getting:

p7010 ~ # ls  -als /dev/tts/USB*
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root tty 188, 0 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/tts/USB0
0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root tty 188, 1 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/tts/USB1

p7010 ~ # ls -als /dev/pilot
0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 8 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/pilot -> tts/USB1


but even now a test with the palm program stops here:


p7010 ~ # pilot-xfer --port /dev/pilot -L
   Listening to port: /dev/pilot
   Please press the HotSync button now...
                                            
the moment I am pressing the hotsync button, the device (/dev/pilot) 
is disappearing for a second and will be created insteadly again:

resulting:  Error read system info on /dev/pilot


kpilot is not able to connect at all :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo, udev and Palm Tungsten T5

[Heinz Sporn]

Ok, let's see if I can remember how I got my Palm working .... ;-)

UDEV: /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules
BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="PalmSN12345678", NAME="pilot", MODE="0666"

The MODE paramter is VERY important! There had been some changes in this
area recently.

And just to be sure add a permission
here: /etc/udev/permissions.d/10-udev.permissions
# Palm Tungsten E
# pilot*:root:usb:0666
BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="PalmSN12345678", NAME="pilot", MODE="0666"

My Tungsten E doesn't have a craddle but can be directly connected with
an USB cable. I had to enable USB Serial Converter support in my kernel
(CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR) for that to work.

I believe that's pretty much it.

Regards

spox

Am Freitag, den 12.08.2005, 20:09 +0200 schrieb Stefan Onken:
> Am Freitag, 12. August 2005 04:58 schrieb Nick Rout:
> 
> > http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
> ]...]
> 
> > 1. unlike many usb devices plugging a palm device in is
> > insufficient to get the kernel and udev and hotlpug to do
> > anything. you need to push the hotsync button.
> >
> > 2. you then get two devices (well on the treo anyway) - something
> > like ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1 - only one of them is any good, the odd
> > one. They may not be in the top level of /dev, but in some
> > subdirectory.  find and the kernel logs are your friends.
> 
> well, I am using:
> 
> BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="504E35424D42583456354E35", 
> KERNEL="ttyUSB[1357]",  SYMLINK="pilot"
> 
> 
> some seconds after I am connecting the Palm (without pressing any 
> hotsync button !!! ) I am getting:
> 
> p7010 ~ # ls  -als /dev/tts/USB*
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root tty 188, 0 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/tts/USB0
> 0 crw-rw-rw-  1 root tty 188, 1 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/tts/USB1
> 
> p7010 ~ # ls -als /dev/pilot
> 0 lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 8 Aug 12 20:01 /dev/pilot -> tts/USB1
> 
> 
> but even now a test with the palm program stops here:
> 
> 
> p7010 ~ # pilot-xfer --port /dev/pilot -L
>    Listening to port: /dev/pilot
>    Please press the HotSync button now...
>                                             
> the moment I am pressing the hotsync button, the device (/dev/pilot) 
> is disappearing for a second and will be created insteadly again:
> 
> resulting:  Error read system info on /dev/pilot
> 
> 
> kpilot is not able to connect at all :(
> 
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