From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3Ecn-00064g-OF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:05:42 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7BF3xl3015787; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:03:59 GMT Received: from serv.stabilityhost.com (serv.stabilityhost.com [207.44.160.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7BExsRR029322 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:59:55 GMT Received: (qmail 18837 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2005 10:00:45 -0500 Received: from pool-71-99-168-40.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net (HELO hobbes.mars.lan) (71.99.168.40) by serv.stabilityhost.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2005 10:00:45 -0500 Received: by hobbes.mars.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E554FF3B09; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:49:41 -0400 From: Paul M Foster To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola Message-ID: <20050811144941.GC7718@quillandmouse.com> References: <20050809195210.GA15338@may.frognet.net> <20050809210534.GZ792@quillandmouse.com> <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Archives-Salt: 3835f1ef-d845-45c4-9c4d-382e5d155e11 X-Archives-Hash: 5f8a7efdea2cb62206f3bb8240e4d578 On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 08:14:26PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote: > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote: > > > > > http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox > > > > > > Just wondering if anyone had heard of this. Although, if true, it > > > certainly doesn't surprise me with todays corporate ethics as they are. > > > Just a bad mark on Mozilla. > > > > > > > I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with this. Google pays Mozilla to > > make Google the default search engine for Firefox. Mozilla could have > > made it Yahoo or someone else, but Google paid them and that's bad? This > > seems the same to me as Ford offering a television show free cars so > > that whenever you see a car in the show, it's a Ford. This is as old as > > advertising itself. > > > > Even "IF" only one of those allegations are true, I'm disappointed in > Mozilla's choices. They were, until a few days ago, "non-profit". Google > may be the best general purpose search engine out there right now, but > "IF" Mozilla made it the default for cash, I have a problem with that. If > Mozilla knows that a Google search deposits cookies from sites never > visited, I have a problem with that. IANAL, and I'm not privvy to all the laws pertaining to non-profits, but I think that what really defines a non-profit is that no single person or group "profits" from the entity. And I think that non-profits routinely gain funds from investments in other entities. I'm not sure, but I think this is the case. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list