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From: Paul M Foster <paulf@quillandmouse.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:49:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050811144941.GC7718@quillandmouse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net>

On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 08:14:26PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
> > 
> > > http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox
> > > 
> > > Just wondering if anyone had heard of this. Although, if true, it
> > > certainly doesn't surprise me with todays corporate ethics as they are.
> > > Just a bad mark on Mozilla.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with this. Google pays Mozilla to 
> > make Google the default search engine for Firefox. Mozilla could have 
> > made it Yahoo or someone else, but Google paid them and that's bad? This 
> > seems the same to me as Ford offering a television show free cars so 
> > that whenever you see a car in the show, it's a Ford. This is as old as 
> > advertising itself.
> > 

<snip>

> 
> Even "IF" only one of those allegations are true, I'm disappointed in
> Mozilla's choices. They were, until a few days ago, "non-profit". Google
> may be the best general purpose search engine out there right now, but
> "IF" Mozilla made it the default for cash, I have a problem with that. If
> Mozilla knows that a Google search deposits cookies from sites never
> visited, I have a problem with that. 

IANAL, and I'm not privvy to all the laws pertaining to non-profits, but 
I think that what really defines a non-profit is that no single person 
or group "profits" from the entity. And I think that non-profits 
routinely gain funds from investments in other entities. I'm not sure, 
but I think this is the case.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-11 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-09 19:52 [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola John J. Foster
2005-08-09 21:05 ` Paul M Foster
2005-08-10  0:14   ` John J. Foster
2005-08-10  3:56     ` Bob Sanders
2005-08-10 11:33     ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-10 12:13       ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-10 12:51         ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-10 23:58           ` Iain Buchanan
2005-08-11  0:31             ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 10:10               ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 12:39                 ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 12:47                   ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 19:30                 ` Antoine
2005-08-10 13:28         ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-10 13:42           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2005-08-11  0:00             ` Iain Buchanan
2005-08-11 21:38               ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2005-08-11  2:29         ` Matt Randolph
2005-08-11 14:07           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 14:34             ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 15:48             ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 20:19             ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-08-11 15:01               ` Ian K
2005-08-11 19:19         ` Antoine
2005-08-11 17:51           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12  2:51           ` Bob Sanders
2005-08-12  7:31             ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 13:17               ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12 14:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 15:16                   ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12 15:50                     ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 16:10                     ` Uwe Thiem
2005-08-12 16:36                     ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-12  9:34             ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 14:49     ` Paul M Foster [this message]
2005-08-10 16:17   ` Billy Holmes
2005-08-10 16:43     ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-10 17:17       ` Michael Crute
2005-08-10 23:34         ` Philip Webb
2005-08-10 12:17 ` Hans-Werner Hilse

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