From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2q8T-0003uI-Ke for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:56:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7ACsqaC004342; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:54:52 GMT Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk (rutherford.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.142]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7ACot0l028638 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:50:55 GMT Received: from [82.69.83.178] (helo=desiato.digimed.co.uk) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E2q3T-00088c-6F for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:51:35 +0000 Received: from hactar.digimed.co.uk (hactar.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.2]) by desiato.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BB91405F5E for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:51:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:51:28 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola Message-ID: <20050810135128.09e79936@hactar.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <42F9EF6A.9060204@planet.nl> References: <42F9EF6A.9060204@planet.nl> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Wed__10_Aug_2005_13_51_28_+0100_Om8KGco3dyuc+bvI; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.69.83.178] X-Archives-Salt: 82b59f51-4b03-43df-89e4-e82660b3ea1b X-Archives-Hash: 9daa80036d87180056145edf9ade17f1 --Signature_Wed__10_Aug_2005_13_51_28_+0100_Om8KGco3dyuc+bvI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:13:30 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: > > Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing > > trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on >=20 > This carries the assumption that "our own browsing trends" is, in fact, > "private information", which I do not necessarily agree with. It also assumes that Mozilla are making a profit from this. Being non-profit doesn't preclude any sort of income to cover costs. Gentoo is non-profit but sells CDs, mugs and t-shirts, as well as accepting donations. Netscape/AOL put a lot of money into Mozilla when they separated it, and some more later. Why was this OK but taking money from Google is such a sin? If it has been Microsoft I could understand the resistance, but when the World's best search engine takes out advertising (and this is what it boils down to) on the World's best browser it is nothing more than a sensible arrangement that helps both get better. Firefox and Mozilla have to have one search engine as the default, that would have been Google anyway, so they are simply accepting payment to maintain the status quo, while not forcing any restrictions on their customers. Now, how much are KDE getting for doing the same with Konqueror? --=20 Neil Bothwick 30 minutes of begging is not considered foreplay. --Signature_Wed__10_Aug_2005_13_51_28_+0100_Om8KGco3dyuc+bvI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFC+fhUum4al0N1GQMRAiJIAJ9zyQgty1isjTqre6okIhVmzGvipwCfblMb AzzdvwT+xBSG+zH5WGDgmlA= =tATD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Wed__10_Aug_2005_13_51_28_+0100_Om8KGco3dyuc+bvI-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list