From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2hmd-00048h-AX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 04:01:39 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7A3xgHD010937; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:59:42 GMT Received: from mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.28]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7A3twbC011307 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:55:59 GMT Received: (qmail 13017 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2005 03:56:30 -0000 Received: from dsl027-182-150.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO chi.speakeasy.net) (rmsand@[216.27.182.150]) (envelope-sender ) by mail26.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Aug 2005 03:56:30 -0000 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:56:32 -0700 From: Bob Sanders To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola Message-ID: <20050809205632.3d7e27f0@chi.speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net> References: <20050809195210.GA15338@may.frognet.net> <20050809210534.GZ792@quillandmouse.com> <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4a (GTK+ 1.2.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9bd1f790-7689-4fd9-9e2f-7548c93a9c9d X-Archives-Hash: 11db8c06d880fc1c397b0ef1a135af71 On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:14:26 -0400 "John J. Foster" wrote: > Even "IF" only one of those allegations are true, I'm disappointed in > Mozilla's choices. They were, until a few days ago, "non-profit". Google > may be the best general purpose search engine out there right now, but > "IF" Mozilla made it the default for cash, I have a problem with that. If > Mozilla knows that a Google search deposits cookies from sites never > visited, I have a problem with that. > So, I checked and it seems that Firefox has Google as the default search engine. But it lets me change that search engine to Yahoo and even add search engines. And it saves my preference. And you're saying that taking money to continue to support development with the return of having Google as the default is bad? Even though the end user can still tailor that default? > IF anything in that article is true, and you think that that type of > underhandedness (is that a word?) and deception is OK, fine. I don't. > What's underhanded about advertising? That's all it is. The end user is not locked in to a specific search engine. Underhanded is locking the search engine choice after taking money, not rotating a specific engine to the top as a pre-configured default. Bob -- - Are you living in the real world? - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list