[gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Walter Dnes]

  After a while, it gets old telling etc-update after each emerge update
that no, I do *NOT* want to change...

  - my clocktime setting from "local" to "UTC"
  - my console font from "lat0-10" (48 rows with vga=2) to "default8x16"
    (30 rows with vga=2).
  - the hostnames of *BOTH* my Gentoo machines to "localhost" (try ssh
    with *THAT* setup!?!?).

  Is there a way to get etc-update ignore those items?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Zac Medico]

Walter Dnes wrote:
>   After a while, it gets old telling etc-update after each emerge update
> that no, I do *NOT* want to change...
> 
>   - my clocktime setting from "local" to "UTC"
>   - my console font from "lat0-10" (48 rows with vga=2) to "default8x16"
>     (30 rows with vga=2).
>   - the hostnames of *BOTH* my Gentoo machines to "localhost" (try ssh
>     with *THAT* setup!?!?).
> 
>   Is there a way to get etc-update ignore those items?
> 


You could try dispatch-conf (see manpage) or emerge conf-update.  Unfortunately, etc-update has many known bugs.  The problem you mentioned sounds like bug 26807.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[A. Khattri]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Zac Medico wrote:

> You could try dispatch-conf (see manpage) or emerge conf-update.
> Unfortunately, etc-update has many known bugs.  The problem you
> mentioned sounds like bug 26807.

Both etc-update and dispatch-conf have good and bad points - none
of them are ideal tools. For example, it would be nice if etc-update could
archive config files into CVS. On the other hand, Im using vimdiff with
etc-update which makes comparing config files very easy - dispatch-conf
doesn't use vimdiff. Ive used both and ultimately stayed with etc-update
(the colors in vimdiff make it easier to work with).

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RE: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Michael Kintzios]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A. Khattri [mailto:ajai@bway.net] 
> Sent: 05 August 2005 14:14
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Zac Medico wrote:
> 
> > You could try dispatch-conf (see manpage) or emerge conf-update.
> > Unfortunately, etc-update has many known bugs.  The problem you
> > mentioned sounds like bug 26807.
> 
> Both etc-update and dispatch-conf have good and bad points - none
> of them are ideal tools. For example, it would be nice if 
> etc-update could
> archive config files into CVS. On the other hand, Im using 
> vimdiff with
> etc-update which makes comparing config files very easy - 
> dispatch-conf
> doesn't use vimdiff. Ive used both and ultimately stayed with 
> etc-update
> (the colors in vimdiff make it easier to work with).
> 
You can always emerge colordiff and change your etc-update.conf and/or
dispatch-conf.conf to use it.  Lovely colours all around.  :)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:

> You can always emerge colordiff and change your etc-update.conf and/or
> dispatch-conf.conf to use it.  Lovely colours all around.  :)

Ive tried it with dispatch-conf. I went back to etc-update and vimdiff
(since its vi, its easy to move around and the split windows making
comparing side-by-side easier than any other diff tool.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Mark Knecht]

On 8/5/05, A. Khattri <ajai@bway.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Michael Kintzios wrote:
> 
> > You can always emerge colordiff and change your etc-update.conf and/or
> > dispatch-conf.conf to use it.  Lovely colours all around.  :)
> 
> Ive tried it with dispatch-conf. I went back to etc-update and vimdiff
> (since its vi, its easy to move around and the split windows making
> comparing side-by-side easier than any other diff tool.
> 
Hi,
   With vimdiff how do yo make the actual changes? Can you somehow
tell it to apply certain lines from file2 to file1 or do you have to
copy and paste by hand?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

>    With vimdiff how do yo make the actual changes? Can you somehow
> tell it to apply certain lines from file2 to file1 or do you have to
> copy and paste by hand?

If there are minor changes, you can directly edit the update then save,
quit and merge the update. If there are whole line that are different, you
can cut and paste between windows (vimdiff colorises too so its easy to
see what's different and what's not).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Robert Svoboda]

* A. Khattri <ajai@bway.net> [2005-08-07 18:51]:
> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> >    With vimdiff how do yo make the actual changes? Can you somehow
> > tell it to apply certain lines from file2 to file1 or do you have to
> > copy and paste by hand?
> 
> If there are minor changes, you can directly edit the update then save,
> quit and merge the update. If there are whole line that are different, you
> can cut and paste between windows (vimdiff colorises too so its easy to
> see what's different and what's not).

It can be even simpler use 'dp' (as Diff Put), where you want
propagate the difference to the other file and do 'do' (Diff
Obtain) to put change from the other file. There is much more
(yeah, it's vim after all :), see :help vimdiff .

-r
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RE: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[Daevid Vincent]

I'll put in a plug for "meld" if you're like me and non-masochistic. It's an
X-windows application and is as simple as point & click.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Some intelligence in etc-update... please.

[A. Khattri]

On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> I'll put in a plug for "meld" if you're like me and non-masochistic. It's an
> X-windows application and is as simple as point & click.

Yeah, but that's no use on a server without X now is it?

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