* [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia
@ 2005-07-30 20:34 Daevid Vincent
2005-07-30 22:11 ` Stroller
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From: Daevid Vincent @ 2005-07-30 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I have been pulling my hair out for a while after updating my kernel, I
couldn't get my wlan0 wireless PCMCIA card to work again. I kept re-emerging
the "net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng" but was never getting the module.
daevid ~ # emerge -av net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23 -build -pcmcia -usb
437 kB
Total size of downloads: 437 kB
Then after staring at the ebuild line I realized much to my astonishment
that it is set to "-pcmcia". WTF?! This seems to me absurd. 90% of the
wireless cards out there are PCMCIA. So I had to edit my
/etc/portage/package.use file and add 'pcmcia' to it for this ebuild. I
guess I never noticed or even considered the possibility that it would
default to not building PCMCIA.
I would like to request that pcmcia be on by default for this ebuild.
This would also go for "net-wireless/hostap-driver".
"net-wireless/madwifi-driver" doesn't have this problem. It just works.
Is there some logic or reason behind them being defaulted to off for these
that I'm just not seeing?
I've added it as http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100835
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* Re: [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia
2005-07-30 20:34 [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia Daevid Vincent
@ 2005-07-30 22:11 ` Stroller
2005-07-30 23:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2005-07-31 11:23 ` Richard Fish
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From: Stroller @ 2005-07-30 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Jul 30, 2005, at 9:34 pm, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I have been pulling my hair out for a while after updating my kernel, I
> couldn't get my wlan0 wireless PCMCIA card to work again. I kept
> re-emerging
> the "net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng" but was never getting the module.
> ...
>
> Then after staring at the ebuild line I realized much to my
> astonishment
> that it is set to "-pcmcia". WTF?! This seems to me absurd. 90% of the
> wireless cards out there are PCMCIA.
As a "specialist purveyor of guaranteed Linux-compatible wireless
cards" the figure of 90% seems to me slightly excessive. I sell two
types of Belkin card, both using the Ralink chipset (`emerge rt25000`)
and both at the same price - over the past couple of months 40% of my
orders have been for the PCMCIA (in fact Cardbus) model, 60% for the
PCI model.
If I were to include sales of Prism54 cards (more expensive, but
suitable for use in master mode for wireless accesspoints, basestations
& routers) then the figures for PCI cards would be higher, but I feel
the scarcity of these cards may be to blame for that figure, rather
than the distribution of wireless laptops to wirelessly-networked
desktop PCs.
Stroller.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia
2005-07-30 20:34 [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia Daevid Vincent
2005-07-30 22:11 ` Stroller
@ 2005-07-30 23:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2005-07-31 11:23 ` Richard Fish
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-07-30 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:34:31 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> [ebuild N ] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1_pre23 -build -pcmcia
> -usb 437 kB
> Total size of downloads: 437 kB
>
> Then after staring at the ebuild line I realized much to my astonishment
> that it is set to "-pcmcia". WTF?! This seems to me absurd. 90% of the
> wireless cards out there are PCMCIA.
90% of the wireless cards out there don't need wlan-ng. For example, the
prism2 PCMCIA cards are supported in the kernel but the prism2 USB ones
are not.
I suppose the moral is, never trust the defaults, especially as they are
global, not per ebuild. If your computer has a PCMCIA slot, set the
pcmcia USE flag in make.conf.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia
2005-07-30 20:34 [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia Daevid Vincent
2005-07-30 22:11 ` Stroller
2005-07-30 23:18 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-07-31 11:23 ` Richard Fish
2005-08-01 22:38 ` Daevid Vincent
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From: Richard Fish @ 2005-07-31 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Daevid Vincent wrote:
>Then after staring at the ebuild line I realized much to my astonishment
>that it is set to "-pcmcia". WTF?! This seems to me absurd. 90% of the
>wireless cards out there are PCMCIA. So I had to edit my
>
>
I think you have gotten 16-bit legacy PCMCIA and 32-bit Cardbus
confused. For laptop wireless cards, all of the cards sold today, and I
would guess that 99% of all cards _in use_, are 32-bit cardbus, which do
not require pcmcia-cs or the pcmcia tools.
-Richard
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* RE: [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng default to +pcmcia
2005-07-31 11:23 ` Richard Fish
@ 2005-08-01 22:38 ` Daevid Vincent
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From: Daevid Vincent @ 2005-08-01 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
All I know is that without the USE="pcmcia" the little card that I shove in
the side of my notebook didn't get a module installed... ;-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Fish [mailto:bigfish@asmallpond.org]
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 4:24 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] REQ: net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng
> default to +pcmcia
>
> Daevid Vincent wrote:
>
> >Then after staring at the ebuild line I realized much to my
> astonishment
> >that it is set to "-pcmcia". WTF?! This seems to me absurd.
> 90% of the
> >wireless cards out there are PCMCIA. So I had to edit my
> >
> >
>
> I think you have gotten 16-bit legacy PCMCIA and 32-bit Cardbus
> confused. For laptop wireless cards, all of the cards sold
> today, and I
> would guess that 99% of all cards _in use_, are 32-bit
> cardbus, which do
> not require pcmcia-cs or the pcmcia tools.
>
> -Richard
>
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>
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