Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

[Collins Richey]

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:05:23 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> wrote:
> >What should I do?
> >
> 
> One of the first things I do, after installing Gentoo, is dumpboth devfs and
> udev. After running MAKEDEV, there's no more problems working with devices...
> 

True enough for now, but eventually the kernel developers will force
you to udev, so my very humble opinion is, get used to udev. I did
that a year ago, solved a few wrinkles, and now the system just hums.
udev also has some nice features for assigning fixed /dev/names for
devices regardless of the order of discovery.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

[Jerry McBride]

On Saturday 04 December 2004 07:19 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:05:23 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> 
wrote:
> > >What should I do?
> >
> > One of the first things I do, after installing Gentoo, is dumpboth devfs
> > and udev. After running MAKEDEV, there's no more problems working with
> > devices...
>
> True enough for now, but eventually the kernel developers will force
> you to udev, so my very humble opinion is, get used to udev.

I have the belief and hopes that when the kernel forced udev upon me, it'll be 
fully operational, no bugs. Until that time, I refuse to do anymore debug 
testing for the kernel developers... :')

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Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

[Collins Richey]

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:27:19 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Saturday 04 December 2004 07:19 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:05:23 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > > >What should I do?
> > >
> > > One of the first things I do, after installing Gentoo, is dumpboth devfs
> > > and udev. After running MAKEDEV, there's no more problems working with
> > > devices...
> >
> > True enough for now, but eventually the kernel developers will force
> > you to udev, so my very humble opinion is, get used to udev.
> 
> I have the belief and hopes that when the kernel forced udev upon me, it'll be
> fully operational, no bugs. Until that time, I refuse to do anymore debug
> testing for the kernel developers... :')
> 

Hmmm! A bug-free kernel! Now that would be a wonder to see. Sometime
around the time that hell freezes over.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

[Nick Rout]

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:33:35 -0700
Collins Richey <crichey@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 20:27:19 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Saturday 04 December 2004 07:19 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:05:23 -0500, Jerry McBride <mcbrides9@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > > > >What should I do?
> > > >
> > > > One of the first things I do, after installing Gentoo, is dumpboth devfs
> > > > and udev. After running MAKEDEV, there's no more problems working with
> > > > devices...
> > >
> > > True enough for now, but eventually the kernel developers will force
> > > you to udev, so my very humble opinion is, get used to udev.
> > 
> > I have the belief and hopes that when the kernel forced udev upon me, it'll be
> > fully operational, no bugs. Until that time, I refuse to do anymore debug
> > testing for the kernel developers... :')
> > 
> 
> Hmmm! A bug-free kernel! Now that would be a wonder to see. Sometime
> around the time that hell freezes over.

I had better report back on how it worked out now that this thread is in
GWN LOL.

Before I posted I had already compiled the kernel with no devfs support
at all. I also emerged udev.

When I booted after setting everything up it "just went", with no devfs
in the kernel. I assume I would have received the same result if I had
compiled in devfs and either NOT compiled in the option to start devfs
on boot OR booted with the kernel parameter gentoo=nodevfs

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Re: [gentoo-user] new 2004.3 system - to devfs or not to devfs, that is the question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:36:30 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:

> When I booted after setting everything up it "just went", with no
> devfs in the kernel. I assume I would have received the same result if
> I had compiled in devfs and either NOT compiled in the option to start
> devfs on boot OR booted with the kernel parameter gentoo=nodevfs

That should be AND, not OR. If the kernel is compiled to automatically
start devfs, it is started before gentoo=nodevfs is acted upon. You
should not use the auto option in the kernel if you want to run udev
at any time. Control is by kernel parameters only.


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