Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage repository

Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage repository

[Collins Richey]

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:14:20 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:36:18 +0530 Andrew Cowie
> <andrew@operationaldynamics.com> wrote:
> | I would refine that, however, to /opt being a place where things
> | outside of package control are permitted [my personal view, now FHS or
> | Gentoo policy or anything] whereas anything going into /usr MUST be
> | under the OS's discipline.
> |
> | For instance, I untar the binary blob I get from download.eclipse.org
> | in out in /opt/eclipse, that sort of thing.
> 
> Guess I might as well explain Gentoo policy on this.
> 
> /usr is for portage-installed apps. Don't install your own things with
> --prefix=/usr, portage is totally entitled to clobber them as it sees
> fit.
> 
> /usr/local is for user-installed apps. Portage-installed apps won't
> touch this.
> 
> /opt is used by portage for some packages which are not built from
> source (typically packages which come in foo and foo-bin variants).
> There are certain developers who want this behaviour changed (or better
> yet, -bin packages removed) :)
> 

Agreed, except for removing the -bin packages. OTOH, Ciaran, this
doesn't quite explain your regard for /opt as an abomination.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage repository

[Andrew Cowie]

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Thanks for your Gentoo policy clarification.

On Sat, 2004-04-12 at 18:14 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> /opt is used by portage for some packages which are not built from
> source (typically packages which come in foo and foo-bin variants).

Indeed.

It occurs to me that I would be better off placing the binary blobs I
install (that I'm placing by my own preference into /opt "somewhere")
into something along the lines of /opt/local 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage repository

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:14:20 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> There are certain developers who want this behaviour changed (or
> better yet, -bin packages removed) :)

I hope these developers will first ensure that the source variants of
these packages compile and run cleanly on all platforms. OOo doesn't
compile on amd64.

I agree with you about /opt, it seems pointless, and means you need an
extra partition if you want a minimal root partition. If binaries need a
separate location, what's wrong with /usr/opt?I think you may get
objections trying to get /usr/crap implemented :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage repository

[George Garvey]

On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 06:14:20PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> /usr is for portage-installed apps. Don't install your own things with
> /usr/local is for user-installed apps. Portage-installed apps won't
> /opt is used by portage for some packages which are not built from

   What about stuff in /usr/local/portage that is not also in
/usr/portage? Is it reasonable/okay to install that in /usr instead of
/usr/local? It is being managed by portage, just not the Gentoo devs.

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