* [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
@ 2007-01-09 12:36 John covici
2007-01-09 12:46 ` Gian Domeni Calgeer
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From: John covici @ 2007-01-09 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw
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Hi. I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate modules for
apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
gentoo. All I found was php5 which will break some apps which I will
need to install.
any assistance would be appreciated.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 12:36 [gentoo-user] How do I get php4 John covici
@ 2007-01-09 12:46 ` Gian Domeni Calgeer
2007-01-09 13:00 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
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From: Gian Domeni Calgeer @ 2007-01-09 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
> Hi. I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate modules for
> apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
> gentoo. All I found was php5 which will break some apps which I will
> need to install.
Hi
Try "emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6"
Gian
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 12:46 ` Gian Domeni Calgeer
@ 2007-01-09 13:00 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
2007-01-09 13:18 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
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From: Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) @ 2007-01-09 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:gidoca@gmx.ch]
> Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
> > Hi. I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate
> modules for
> > apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
> > gentoo. All I found was php5 which will break some apps
> which I will
> > need to install.
>
> Hi
>
> Try "emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6"
>
> Gian
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>
>
As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) that if you want to emerge a specific package you do:
emerge =category/pacakage-<version>
Available versions can be seen by doing:
ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild
Which should list all php ebuilds available.
Cheers
David
Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list.
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:00 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
@ 2007-01-09 13:18 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
2007-01-09 14:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
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From: John covici @ 2007-01-09 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
OK, thanks much -- the strange thing is when I did emerge -s php how
come I did not see the php4 packages -- only the php5 ones?
Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
package being masked?
Thanks again.
on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\)(David.Nelson2@astrazeneca.com) wrote
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:gidoca@gmx.ch]
> > Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
> >
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
> > > Hi. I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate
> > modules for
> > > apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
> > > gentoo. All I found was php5 which will break some apps
> > which I will
> > > need to install.
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Try "emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6"
> >
> > Gian
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
> As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) that if you want to emerge a specific package you do:
>
> emerge =category/pacakage-<version>
>
> Available versions can be seen by doing:
>
> ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild
>
> Which should list all php ebuilds available.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
> Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list.
>
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* [gentoo-user] Re: How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:18 ` John covici
@ 2007-01-09 13:42 ` Alexander Skwar
2007-01-09 14:27 ` [gentoo-user] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Alexander Skwar @ 2007-01-09 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
John covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>:
> OK, thanks much -- the strange thing is when I did emerge -s php how
> come I did not see the php4 packages -- only the php5 ones?
That's simple - there are no "php4" or "php5" packagews. There's only
a php package (dev-lang/php), as can be seen by running "emerge -s php":
* dev-lang/php
Latest version available: 5.1.6-r8
Latest version installed: 5.1.6-r8
Size of files: 6,389 kB
Homepage: http://www.php.net/
Description: The PHP language runtime engine: CLI, CGI and Apache SAPIs.
License: PHP-3
Which version to emerge is determined by selecting the appropriate
version.
> Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
> package being masked?
Check out the file profiles/package.mask in your portage tree;
eg. /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.
Alexander Skwar
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:00 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
2007-01-09 13:18 ` John covici
@ 2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:56 ` Michael Sullivan
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From: John covici @ 2007-01-09 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
/etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
doing wrong here?
Thanks.
on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\)(David.Nelson2@astrazeneca.com) wrote
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gian Domeni Calgeer [mailto:gidoca@gmx.ch]
> > Sent: 09 January 2007 12:46
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
> >
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 13:36 schrieb John covici:
> > > Hi. I have some apps which need php4 and the appropriate
> > modules for
> > > apache2 and other things like php-pear -- how do I get them into
> > > gentoo. All I found was php5 which will break some apps
> > which I will
> > > need to install.
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Try "emerge -va =dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r6"
> >
> > Gian
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
> As a more general learning point I would add (for the benefit of the OP) that if you want to emerge a specific package you do:
>
> emerge =category/pacakage-<version>
>
> Available versions can be seen by doing:
>
> ls /usr/portage/dev-lang/php/*.ebuild
>
> Which should list all php ebuilds available.
>
> Cheers
>
> David
> Note: These views are my own, advice is provided with no guarantee of success. I do not represent anyone else in any emails I send to this list.
>
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
@ 2007-01-09 13:56 ` Michael Sullivan
2007-01-09 14:16 ` John covici
2007-01-09 14:20 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-01-09 14:26 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Michael Sullivan @ 2007-01-09 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 08:49 -0500, John covici wrote:
> I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> doing wrong here?
>
> Thanks.
Is the package hard-masked? (as in "package.mask" - when you get the
"this package is masked" message, it should tell you all the wways that
it has been masked...)
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:56 ` Michael Sullivan
@ 2007-01-09 14:16 ` John covici
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From: John covici @ 2007-01-09 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
It says masked by keywords -- that is why I did what I did.
on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Michael Sullivan(michael@espersunited.com) wrote
> On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 08:49 -0500, John covici wrote:
> > I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> > /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> > dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> > but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> > doing wrong here?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Is the package hard-masked? (as in "package.mask" - when you get the
> "this package is masked" message, it should tell you all the wways that
> it has been masked...)
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:56 ` Michael Sullivan
@ 2007-01-09 14:20 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-01-09 14:38 ` John covici
2007-01-09 14:26 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Bo Ørsted Andresen @ 2007-01-09 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:49, John covici wrote:
> I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> doing wrong here?
"dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8" is an invalid atom. "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8"
or "~dev-lang/php-4.4.4" would be valid atoms. You can read more about valid
atoms in `man 5 ebuild`.
PS: Please stop top-posting:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:49 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:56 ` Michael Sullivan
2007-01-09 14:20 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
@ 2007-01-09 14:26 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-01-09 15:09 ` Mark Shields
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2007-01-09 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:49:16 -0500, John covici wrote:
> I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> doing wrong here?
That should be "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86"
If a package contains a version, it must start with one or more of
=, ~, >, <, !
PS, please don't top post.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 13:18 ` John covici
2007-01-09 13:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
@ 2007-01-09 14:27 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
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From: Bo Ørsted Andresen @ 2007-01-09 14:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:18, John covici wrote:
> Also, is there any way while doing a search to see the reason for a
> package being masked?
# eix -e php
[I] dev-lang/php
Available versions:
(4) !4.3.11-r5 4.4.4-r6 ~4.4.4-r8
(5) 5.0.5-r5 5.1.6-r6 ~5.1.6-r8
Description: The PHP language runtime engine: CLI, CGI and Apache SAPIs.
This shows that 4.3.11-r5 is masked by missing keyword and 4.4.4-r8 is masked
by ~keyword. It's all explained in `man eix`. And of course it requires you to
install app-portage/eix. As an added bonus eix is way faster that `emerge -s`.
:)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 14:20 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
@ 2007-01-09 14:38 ` John covici
2007-01-09 14:53 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
2007-01-09 14:57 ` John J. Foster
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From: John covici @ 2007-01-09 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
libraries, but that is another question for another day.
thanks much guys for all your help.
on Tuesday 01/09/2007 Bo Ørsted Andresen(bo.andresen@zlin.dk) wrote
> On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:49, John covici wrote:
> > I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> > /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> > dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> > but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> > doing wrong here?
>
> "dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8" is an invalid atom. "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8"
> or "~dev-lang/php-4.4.4" would be valid atoms. You can read more about valid
> atoms in `man 5 ebuild`.
>
> PS: Please stop top-posting:
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?
>
> --
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* RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 14:38 ` John covici
@ 2007-01-09 14:53 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
2007-01-09 14:57 ` John J. Foster
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From: Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D) @ 2007-01-09 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John covici [mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com]
> Sent: 09 January 2007 14:39
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
>
>
> OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
> libraries, but that is another question for another day.
>
> thanks much guys for all your help.
>
--snip --
You can do:
USE="-X" emerge =category/foo-1.2.3-r4
For example this should in some cases stop (the fictional package) foo pulling in X libs.
> >
> > PS: Please stop top-posting:
> >
> > A: Because it messes up the order in which people read text.
> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> > A: Top-posting.
> > Q: What is the most annoying thing on mailing lists?
> >
> > --
> > Bo Andresen
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 14:38 ` John covici
2007-01-09 14:53 ` Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)
@ 2007-01-09 14:57 ` John J. Foster
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From: John J. Foster @ 2007-01-09 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 09:38:34AM -0500, John covici wrote:
> OK, that did it -- now I have to find out why it wants a bunch of X
> libraries, but that is another question for another day.
>
> thanks much guys for all your help.
>
Thanks so much for listening to others concerning group etiquette and
top-posting.
festus
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 14:26 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2007-01-09 15:09 ` Mark Shields
2007-01-09 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Mark Shields @ 2007-01-09 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On 1/9/07, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:49:16 -0500, John covici wrote:
>
> > I am having trouble unmasking a php4 ebuild. I have in my
> > /etc/portage/package.keywords the following line
> > dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86
> > but emerge still complains about the package being masked. What am I
> > doing wrong here?
>
> That should be "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86"
>
> If a package contains a version, it must start with one or more of
> =, ~, >, <, !
>
> PS, please don't top post.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> Master of all I survey (at the moment, empty pizza boxes)
>
>
>
"=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86" is excessive. "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8" is all
that is needed for the package.keywords file.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get php4
2007-01-09 15:09 ` Mark Shields
@ 2007-01-09 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-01-09 15:59 ` Uwe Thiem
2007-01-09 16:10 ` Kent Fredric
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2007-01-09 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:09:46 -0500, Mark Shields wrote:
> "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86" is excessive. "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8" is
> all that is needed for the package.keywords file.
You are assuming that make.conf contains ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86", this may
not be the case.
Omitting the arch from package.keywords is a special case that may not
always apply. It is better to be specific than rely on assumptions...
unless those four bytes of disk space are critical
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2007-01-09 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2007-01-09 15:59 ` Uwe Thiem
2007-01-09 16:10 ` Kent Fredric
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From: Uwe Thiem @ 2007-01-09 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 09 January 2007 17:35, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> Neil Bothwick
>
> There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking
> like an idiot.
A very fine one. ;-)
Uwe
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2007-01-09 15:35 ` Neil Bothwick
2007-01-09 15:59 ` Uwe Thiem
@ 2007-01-09 16:10 ` Kent Fredric
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From: Kent Fredric @ 2007-01-09 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 1/10/07, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:09:46 -0500, Mark Shields wrote:
>
> > "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8 ~x86" is excessive. "=dev-lang/php-4.4.4-r8" is
> > all that is needed for the package.keywords file.
>
> You are assuming that make.conf contains ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86", this may
> not be the case.
>
> Omitting the arch from package.keywords is a special case that may not
> always apply. It is better to be specific than rely on assumptions...
> unless those four bytes of disk space are critical
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
Indeed, I've been paranoid on occasions where the situation I wasn't
sure what i would get, so just to be certain ( im using
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" and i got sick of the kernel updating so often
) I did
=sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6 x86 -~x86
its probably a little non-standard, but at least theres no real ambiguity.
>
> There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking
> like an idiot.
>
>
>
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