From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6602E138334 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7692E082F; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hosts.co.uk (smtp.hosts.co.uk [85.233.160.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56FAEE07D0 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2018 08:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [86.148.134.253] (helo=[192.168.1.137]) by smtp.hosts.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1fw1Nj-0006aa-53 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2018 09:35:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Update circle To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180822182443.18693b55@linux-0ft9> <20180823201824.4c205e0f@tade.bendor.com.au> From: Wol's lists Message-ID: <1f66bd7a-5dd2-3ad5-963f-1475173dd207@youngman.org.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2018 09:35:46 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bb1366d9-2a8a-4f8f-96bd-8ac7f309a78e X-Archives-Hash: 0b2bb0d61561e9a4563fa622e95fdccc On 23/08/18 11:25, Adam Carter wrote: > The machine is actually a server, which just sat in a corner doing its > job perfectly. That's one of the reasons it wasn't updated: if it ain't > broken, don't fix it. > > > Any system that is not getting software updates is broken to some > degree, just in a subtle way. > > Trimming your /var/lib/portage/world file and removing the trimmed > packages can make the update less painful. I sometimes remove non-system > packages I want, then reinstall again later to get through difficult > upgrades. Bit late to the party, but yes this is normally my approach. If emerge lists a bunch of packages it thinks it can build, I explicitly just update them (on several occasions that has "miraculously" cleared the conflicts and the next global emerge just roars away). I wish there was a portage option that said "don't give up, just emerge what you can". If there are conflicts on something that doesn't appear crucial to the system, I just "emerge -C" it, and make a note to put it back later. My current home system is like this one, well out of date, but I'm planning to replace not fix it, because it's a multi-user system and *relies* on kdm which has, iirc, been deprecated and is not in kde5. Upgrading that is a task I do NOT fancy ... :-) Cheers, Wol