From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 752F51580FD for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83BFDE07D8; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk1-f178.google.com (mail-qk1-f178.google.com [209.85.222.178]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EFE2E07A9 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-f178.google.com with SMTP id af79cd13be357-7b6f1be1daeso437140385a.0 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:55:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1734998102; x=1735602902; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:to:subject:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5t9Ln5tLAHEg+Yk/R+jNGsykjbXlLy8uvVVzUbPfvnk=; b=RuRdfi8sovEtq704Euc2Ff4p3sgPi2u4/7+gfFiy12O9CvF5WjZbil6eeoShQJgeCF Gt2M3iO3KFIdv/ABPsxl5FKRAH0/83NwncNek2ta4jbaK0MvXofcSi6OArB5vg3rtpBC zNZwSimAOMx/q9tnkqY6Mss6OY1SPHraK767vG1EHmD23VEWKiKFZmzNLtW5p10bSeEg /du5A/UBJmw/4+LbNOYlLrelYyBSLVnJMq/R5oMhJADHjy/IObKORfJHRF+lyYewYWax 0iLrjpvgJuYXWsg0w3AbFEBVfevXXD96SqFlS2fxmElYwxX25/mOOO9nTXEex1as//R0 pfGQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywj0B9MNuPQZtoXFz+rM9P0M8QUv4OdajVbUCh5Nrna6HORWrlF IkrEF7NEQjNAxnVM/dkXBM8ZutYEDmcdqQ846K3Ix8bkeFzroRfXf5yJC6U5AHvOVK/dEtRAf+A 0 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncv9yTHOmLw/ca6vYNH8d271DTX5Oq3jAX5t0WxJQ2dduM9I/YlAY1j/edheQ+Q GfGZqE6RMGPK+PHkLk1wvlAgRSb2wtgmYX87lZLDsPFsC+Qh8okh7ggOFg2BKIH/NBQhYNSXitX lLV1ok4du7rWVVc6BJ47ayoqsO3QGjoOwgNZDZwJXKgEUVHVcIQ1i2j4F/oF0pVzTv6iEGG+4gA xcm6LGD0vxfDAc8KTniLIC9ac5lUWO2FT89IIM7NFaWJgOjUSRtLSyEN7QsymWVtfXsx7/W9dTi 4926U4qWqHF+RMYhekiTiqOWR85XU/EJN5lxNEXW X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEET1Rrn8TGOvhKAyJeM1uxN4gOy8n35/1l/u1jZBpq/98PCun9R/6eVsc3IGcSgEWAoDIP7g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4486:b0:7b6:661a:c719 with SMTP id af79cd13be357-7b9ba7a4a15mr2482287585a.25.1734998102415; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.243] (dhcp-67-146-36-198.gobrightspeed.net. [67.146.36.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id af79cd13be357-7b9ac2df87fsm425083185a.37.2024.12.23.15.55.01 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Dec 2024 15:55:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------AsEmEeJN0MOjP1jLl0ni1wfT" Message-ID: <1f0aee8a-3580-4f87-bb2c-ab963f3ecf1f@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 18:53:38 -0500 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update catch-22 with Wifi To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: Content-Language: en-US From: Jack Ostroff In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 7d619280-f4bd-4e92-8f0a-aba62245b9b7 X-Archives-Hash: 0e03b2c4a33bdb2d50b4ee92a562fbde This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AsEmEeJN0MOjP1jLl0ni1wfT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit resending to the list, instead of directly (fat fingered the first time) On 12/23/24 6:45 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > I no longer have a landline available (even via friends) > & rely on Wifi for I/net service, incl software downloads. > > I've been a happy Gentoo user since 2003, > but want to be able to use Wifi with my 15 yr-old netbook (32-bit), > which has always had Gentoo installed & whose hardware incl's Wifi. > This presents a Catch-22 : how can I install Wifi software ? > -- I need the I/net to download the files, > but can't access the I/net without that software installed. > > Is there any way around it ? -- eg could I download files on my desktop, > then transfer them to the netbook & get that system to use them ? > > Can anyone offer suggestions ? What you suggested sounds fine.  You need to download the necessary ebuld(s) if not already present, and then source files - both things that go in the distfiles folder, plus those (if any) that go in the files folder in the ebuild folder.  Download on the desktop and transfer by USB stick? An alternative would be to boot with a live USB, then chroot into Gentoo and emerge away. --------------AsEmEeJN0MOjP1jLl0ni1wfT Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

resending to the list, instead of directly (fat fingered the first time)

On 12/23/24 6:45 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
I no longer have a landline available (even via friends)
& rely on Wifi for I/net service, incl software downloads.

I've been a happy Gentoo user since 2003,
but want to be able to use Wifi with my  15 yr-old  netbook (32-bit),
which has always had Gentoo installed & whose hardware incl's Wifi.
This presents a Catch-22 : how can I install Wifi software ?
-- I need the I/net to download the files,
but can't access the I/net without that software installed.

Is there any way around it ? -- eg could I download files on my desktop,
then transfer them to the netbook & get that system to use them ?

Can anyone offer suggestions ?

What you suggested sounds fine.  You need to download the necessary ebuld(s) if not already present, and then source files - both things that go in the distfiles folder, plus those (if any) that go in the files folder in the ebuild folder.  Download on the desktop and transfer by USB stick?

An alternative would be to boot with a live USB, then chroot into Gentoo and emerge away.

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