[gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[design [depois das dez]]

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Fellow Gentooers,

although I am very happy running a Gentoo box, sometimes I bump into some
difficulties, esp. when updating packages. This time I am having a hard
time reconfiguring my video card, which was fine but is not anymore after
the last system update I've made. Gnome session goes up as usual but the
resolution is not fine and monitor complains about not being in the
recommended mode.

My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has already
updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing that
there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I just
don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the system to
tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem of
this sort?

How do I know what is the video backend in my system? Is Xorg the only one
possible? What can I do to fix this problem?

Regards,
depoisdasdez

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Mick]

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On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 17:18:43 design [depois das dez] wrote:
> Fellow Gentooers,
> 
> although I am very happy running a Gentoo box, sometimes I bump into some
> difficulties, esp. when updating packages. This time I am having a hard
> time reconfiguring my video card, which was fine but is not anymore after
> the last system update I've made. Gnome session goes up as usual but the
> resolution is not fine and monitor complains about not being in the
> recommended mode.
> 
> My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has already
> updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing that
> there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I just
> don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the system to
> tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem of
> this sort?
> 
> How do I know what is the video backend in my system? Is Xorg the only one
> possible? What can I do to fix this problem?

The link you provided says that you should disable framebuffer in your kernel 
config.  Have you tried that?

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Jacques Montier]

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2012/11/28 Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>

> On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 17:18:43 design [depois das dez] wrote:
> > Fellow Gentooers,
> >
> > although I am very happy running a Gentoo box, sometimes I bump into some
> > difficulties, esp. when updating packages. This time I am having a hard
> > time reconfiguring my video card, which was fine but is not anymore after
> > the last system update I've made. Gnome session goes up as usual but the
> > resolution is not fine and monitor complains about not being in the
> > recommended mode.
> >
> > My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has already
> > updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
> > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing that
> > there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I just
> > don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the system
> to
> > tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem of
> > this sort?
> >
> > How do I know what is the video backend in my system? Is Xorg the only
> one
> > possible? What can I do to fix this problem?
>
> The link you provided says that you should disable framebuffer in your
> kernel
> config.  Have you tried that?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>


Hi,

I have the same video card as yours (ATI 9600 RV350) on my old laptop and
tried the new driver by enabling "modesetting on radeon by default".
Device Drivers -> Graphic support -> Direct Rendering Manager (y) -> ATI
Radeon (y) -> Enable Modesetting on radeon by default (y).
I installed the sys-kernel/linux-firmware package, and enabled  include
in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary
Device Drivers -> Generic Driver Options -> include in-kernel firmware
blobs in kernel binary (y)
I let empty "External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary".

It did not work until i disabled ALL the drivers in "Support for frame
buffer devices".
Device Drivers -> Graphic support -> Support for frame buffer devices.

I hope that will help.

Regards,

--
Jacques

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[design [depois das dez]]

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Jacques, you are the man! Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
I had actually everything right, except the (y) for "include in-kernel
firmware blobs in kernel binary", which I was advised some time ago of not
adding it. Why should I need that? I thought I was using the open-source
firmware when opted for sys-kernel/linux-firmware.

Mick and Clemente, thanks anyway for your attention as well.


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Jacques Montier <jmontier@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/11/28 Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
>
>> On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 17:18:43 design [depois das dez] wrote:
>> > Fellow Gentooers,
>> >
>> > although I am very happy running a Gentoo box, sometimes I bump into
>> some
>> > difficulties, esp. when updating packages. This time I am having a hard
>> > time reconfiguring my video card, which was fine but is not anymore
>> after
>> > the last system update I've made. Gnome session goes up as usual but the
>> > resolution is not fine and monitor complains about not being in the
>> > recommended mode.
>> >
>> > My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has already
>> > updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
>> > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing
>> that
>> > there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I just
>> > don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the
>> system to
>> > tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem of
>> > this sort?
>> >
>> > How do I know what is the video backend in my system? Is Xorg the only
>> one
>> > possible? What can I do to fix this problem?
>>
>> The link you provided says that you should disable framebuffer in your
>> kernel
>> config.  Have you tried that?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mick
>>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the same video card as yours (ATI 9600 RV350) on my old laptop and
> tried the new driver by enabling "modesetting on radeon by default".
> Device Drivers -> Graphic support -> Direct Rendering Manager (y) -> ATI
> Radeon (y) -> Enable Modesetting on radeon by default (y).
> I installed the sys-kernel/linux-firmware package, and enabled  include
> in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary
> Device Drivers -> Generic Driver Options -> include in-kernel firmware
> blobs in kernel binary (y)
> I let empty "External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary".
>
> It did not work until i disabled ALL the drivers in "Support for frame
> buffer devices".
> Device Drivers -> Graphic support -> Support for frame buffer devices.
>
> I hope that will help.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jacques
>
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2012-11-28 00:08, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 17:18:43 design [depois das dez] wrote:
>> My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has 
>> already
>> updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing 
>> that
>> there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I 
>> just
>> don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the 
>> system to
>> tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem 
>> of
>> this sort?
[...]
> The link you provided says that you should disable framebuffer in 
> your kernel
> config.  Have you tried that?

I have the same problem and this solution sucks. :-(
Before this update I had such a nice console setup with framebuffer 
splash,
a nice small font, and a Gentoo decoration around it. Really sad to see 
that
go.
    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Mick]

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On Friday 30 Nov 2012 09:01:35 Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On 2012-11-28 00:08, Mick wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 Nov 2012 17:18:43 design [depois das dez] wrote:
> >> My video driver is an ATI Radeon 9600 (RV350) and somebody has
> >> already
> >> updated the section on the Gentoo wiki
> >> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernels_.3E.3D3.0.0 informing
> >> that
> >> there might be incompatibilities concerning the RV350 firmware. I
> >> just
> >> don't have enough understanding of the video related parts of the
> >> system to
> >> tweak and fix this issue. How should I proceed when I have a problem
> >> of
> >> this sort?
> 
> [...]
> 
> > The link you provided says that you should disable framebuffer in
> > your kernel
> > config.  Have you tried that?
> 
> I have the same problem and this solution sucks. :-(
> Before this update I had such a nice console setup with framebuffer
> splash,
> a nice small font, and a Gentoo decoration around it. Really sad to see
> that
> go.
>     Peter.

KMS should provide framebuffer now, so have you set KMS and firmware 
correctly?
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2012-11-30 18:47, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 30 Nov 2012 09:01:35 Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> I have the same problem and this solution sucks. :-(
>> Before this update I had such a nice console setup with framebuffer
>> splash, a nice small font, and a Gentoo decoration around it. Really
>> sad to see that go.
>
> KMS should provide framebuffer now, so have you set KMS and firmware
> correctly?

I just didn't realize that this is the case, so maybe my setup is 
wrong.
I'll study the documentation again.

Cheers,
    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Jacques Montier]

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2012/12/4 Peter Weilbacher <newsspam@weilbacher.org>

> On 2012-11-30 18:47, Mick wrote:
>
>> On Friday 30 Nov 2012 09:01:35 Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>>
>>> I have the same problem and this solution sucks. :-(
>>> Before this update I had such a nice console setup with framebuffer
>>> splash, a nice small font, and a Gentoo decoration around it. Really
>>> sad to see that go.
>>>
>>
>> KMS should provide framebuffer now, so have you set KMS and firmware
>> correctly?
>>
>
> I just didn't realize that this is the case, so maybe my setup is wrong.
> I'll study the documentation again.
>
> Cheers,
>    Peter.
>
>

Don't forget to disable all the drivers in "Support for frame buffer
devices" of your kernel configuration.

Regards,

--
Jacques

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2012-12-04 11:05, Jacques Montier wrote:
> 2012/12/4 Peter Weilbacher <newsspam@weilbacher.org>
>
>> On 2012-11-30 18:47, Mick wrote:
>>
>>> KMS should provide framebuffer now, so have you set KMS and 
>>> firmware
>>> correctly?
>>
>> I just didn't realize that this is the case, so maybe my setup is 
>> wrong.
>> I'll study the documentation again.
>
> Don't forget to disable all the drivers in "Support for frame buffer
> devices" of your kernel configuration.

Right, I did that now, and have the framebuffer splash back. X also 
starts
but the whole system locks hard once gdm tries to paint the login area.
Unfortunately, after rebooting the log doesn't give me any useful 
output.
I have to fiddle around with the setup a bit to see what's wrong, maybe
something's still missing.

Cheers,
    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2012-12-04 19:52, Peter Weilbacher wrote:

> Right, I did that now, and have the framebuffer splash back. X also 
> starts
> but the whole system locks hard once gdm tries to paint the login 
> area.
> Unfortunately, after rebooting the log doesn't give me any useful 
> output.
> I have to fiddle around with the setup a bit to see what's wrong, 
> maybe
> something's still missing.

I didn't find out anything after that, although I rebooted quite a few 
times.

But I'm happy to see that today's update of x11-base/xorg-server-1.13.1 
(from
1.13.0-r1) fixed my crashes. Now I'm a happy X user again. :-)

    Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Bruce Hill]

On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:59:55AM +0100, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> 
> But I'm happy to see that today's update of x11-base/xorg-server-1.13.1 
> (from
> 1.13.0-r1) fixed my crashes. Now I'm a happy X user again. :-)

xorg-server-1.13.1 (25 Dec 2012)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Old ATI Radeon RV350 driver broken after system update

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 2013-01-03 13:59, Bruce Hill wrote:

> xorg-server-1.13.1 (25 Dec 2012)
> 
> Your mirror must be *really* lagging.  :(

Not so much:
   30 Dec 2012; Agostino Sarubbo <ago@gentoo.org> 
xorg-server-1.13.1.ebuild:
   Stable for amd64, wrt bug #448562

This was the second update since then, maybe the first time (around Jan 
1st)
the mirror was lagging a bit. (Since I didn't know for sure that it was
xorg-server's fault or if it was fixed there I didn't keyword that 
package.)
    Peter.