[gentoo-user] Upgraded kernel from .17 to .23 and all sorts of broken things... (nvidia, splash, iptables)

[gentoo-user] Upgraded kernel from .17 to .23 and all sorts of broken things... (nvidia, splash, iptables)

[Daevid Vincent]

I had to upgrade my kernel from linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 to
linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r9

Now all sorts of things are broken.

First and foremost, I used to use:

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1

But I can't re-emerge that now -- it's gone!? WTF!?

[I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
     Available versions:  71.86.01 (~)71.86.04 96.43.01 (~)96.43.05
[m]100.14.09 [m](~)100.14.11 [m]100.14.19 [M](~)100.14.23 [m](~)169.07
[m](~)169.09 [m](~)169.09-r1 [m](~)169.12 {acpi custom-cflags gtk
kernel_linux multilib}
     Installed versions:  96.43.05(18:44:21 03/03/08)(acpi gtk kernel_linux
-multilib)
     Homepage:            http://www.nvidia.com/
     Description:         NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries

So, I tried to emerge whatever the latest stable one was and it told me that
I was fsck'd and to mask out >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.0.0.

Re-emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.

Now when I start X, I have a @#(*&$@# blank/black screen! UGH! 

What now? How do I get back the only working driver for this piece of crap
GeForce 440 Go card that is apparently unsupported now in newer drivers.
(It's in a Dell i8200 notebook -- I CAN'T replace the card BTW)

-----------

Next thing that's broken is my framebuffer console. I'm stuck back at some
God-awful 80x25 display. And the lovely
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash doesn't load anymore.
http://fbsplash.berlios.de/wiki/doku.php?id=docs:distros:gentoo would
indicate that nothing has really changed that I can see. The install
mentions this fbcondecor thing, but says it's optional.

This is in my grub.conf file (sans the line breaks for readability):

kernel=(hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda3 
		video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,1600x1200-16@60
		splash=silent,theme:livecd-2006.1 quiet 
		CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 
		fbcon=scrollback:128K hdb=ide-scsi 
		resume=/dev/hda6 pmdisk=/dev/hda6 
		netdev=5,0xec80,eth0
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.1-1600x1200

When I boot it complains about not being able to open /dev/fb0 or /dev/fb/0
Failing to configure resolution and icon positioning

The .log file from the install says this:

 * Please note that the 'fbsplash' kernel patch has now been renamed to
 * 'fbcondecor'.  Accordingly, the old 'splash' initscript is now called
 * 'fbcondecor'.  Make sure you update your system.  See:
 *     http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/fbcondecor/#history
 * for further info about the name changes.
 *
 * Also note that splash_util has now been split into splash_util, fbsplashd
 * and fbcondecor_ctl.

locutus portage # rc-update del splash default
 * 'splash' removed from the following runlevels: default
locutus portage # rc-update del splash boot
 * 'splash' removed from the following runlevels: boot
locutus portage # rc-update add fbcondecor boot
 * rc-update: '/etc/init.d/fbcondecor' not found; aborting
locutus portage # ls /etc/init.d/fbc*
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/fbc*: No such file or directory
locutus portage # ls /etc/init.d/spl*
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/spl*: No such file or directory

UGH!

-----------

And lastly, I get this BS when I try to start shorewall, which then causes
it to STB and therefore I'm completely locked off from the network. I can
'shorewall clear' which allows me net access, but then I'm completely
exposed! UGH.

And of course http://gentoo-wiki.com/SECURITY_Howto_setup_shorewall isn't
loading.

locutus grub # /etc/init.d/shorewall start
 * Starting firewall ...
iptables: Invalid argument
   ERROR: Command "/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state
ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" Failed
iptables: Invalid argument
iptables: Invalid argument
/sbin/shorewall: line 375: 13010 Terminated              ${VARDIR}/.start
$debugging start

I googled and tried some of the kernel options I saw mentioned, but that
doesn't seem to be helping.

[I] net-firewall/shorewall
     Available versions:  3.0.8 3.2.9 3.4.6 3.4.7 ~4.0 ~4.0-r1 {doc}
     Installed versions:  3.4.7(16:10:17 03/03/08)(-doc)
     Homepage:            http://www.shorewall.net/
     Description:         Shoreline Firewall is an iptables-based firewall
for Linux.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgraded kernel from .17 to .23 and all sorts of broken things... (nvidia, splash, iptables)

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:23:29 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> What now? How do I get back the only working driver for this piece of
> crap GeForce 440 Go card that is apparently unsupported now in newer
> drivers. (It's in a Dell i8200 notebook -- I CAN'T replace the card BTW)

Have you read http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml ?


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[gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Daevid Vincent]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@daevid.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 8:23 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-user] Upgraded kernel from .17 to .23 and 
> all sorts of broken things... (nvidia, splash, iptables)
> 
> I had to upgrade my kernel from linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r8 to
> linux-2.6.23-gentoo-r9
> 
> Now all sorts of things are broken.
> 
> First and foremost, I used to use:
> 
> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1
> 
> But I can't re-emerge that now -- it's gone!? WTF!?
> 
> [I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
>      Available versions:  71.86.01 (~)71.86.04 96.43.01 (~)96.43.05
> [m]100.14.09 [m](~)100.14.11 [m]100.14.19 [M](~)100.14.23 [m](~)169.07
> [m](~)169.09 [m](~)169.09-r1 [m](~)169.12 {acpi custom-cflags gtk
> kernel_linux multilib}
>      Installed versions:  96.43.05(18:44:21 03/03/08)(acpi 
> gtk kernel_linux
> -multilib)
>      Homepage:            http://www.nvidia.com/
>      Description:         NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries
> 
> So, I tried to emerge whatever the latest stable one was and 
> it told me that
> I was fsck'd and to mask out >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.0.0.
> 
> Re-emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> 
> Now when I start X, I have a @#(*&$@# blank/black screen! UGH! 
> 
> What now? How do I get back the only working driver for this 
> piece of crap
> GeForce 440 Go card that is apparently unsupported now in 
> newer drivers.
> (It's in a Dell i8200 notebook -- I CAN'T replace the card BTW)

So this page finally loaded today:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia

And it says:

nVidia GeForce 4 Go 440 32Mb (with latest
x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774) 

So again, how can I get this driver back since it seems to be missing from
portage now?! *sigh*

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:57:56 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> So this page finally loaded today:
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia

Bear in mind that this is not official advice.
> 
> And it says:
> 
> nVidia GeForce 4 Go 440 32Mb (with latest
> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8774) 
> 
> So again, how can I get this driver back since it seems to be missing
> from portage now?! *sigh*

nvidia.com suggests using 96.43.05 but if you want 1.0.8774 you can
download it from the archive section of that site and install it
manually.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:57:56PM -0800, Penguin Lover Daevid Vincent squawked:
> So this page finally loaded today:
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia
> 
> And it says:

Please do as you are told and read the OFFICIAL gentoo website?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

Which clearly states: 

-----begin snip---------
Older cards such as the GeForce 3 or GeForce 4 series require the 96.x
drivers. For these cards, you should mask >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.00 
in your /etc/portage/package.mask file. This will prevent newer 
versions of the driver which are incompatible with your card from being 
installed. 
-----end snip-----------

This information is also found on nVidia's website. 

I have the (almost) exact same card as you do. It should not be a
problem. 

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Daevid Vincent]

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willie Wong [mailto:wwong@Princeton.EDU] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:41 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the 
> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?
> 
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:57:56PM -0800, Penguin Lover 
> Daevid Vincent squawked:
> > So this page finally loaded today:
> > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia
> > 
> > And it says:
> 
> Please do as you are told and read the OFFICIAL gentoo website?
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
> 
> Which clearly states: 
> 
> -----begin snip---------
> Older cards such as the GeForce 3 or GeForce 4 series require the 96.x
> drivers. For these cards, you should mask 
> >=x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.00 
> in your /etc/portage/package.mask file. This will prevent newer 
> versions of the driver which are incompatible with your card 
> from being 
> installed. 
> -----end snip-----------
> 
> This information is also found on nVidia's website. 
> 
> I have the (almost) exact same card as you do. It should not be a problem.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk] 
>
> nvidia.com suggests using 96.43.05

And, as I already posted twice now...

> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. 

This driver is NOT working with my card.

Perhaps I need to wipe out all the files (which ones?) or something and
re-install it again, but I guarantee it's doing exactly as I said it is.
Black screen when X starts.

I'm curious if you have XGL working with it. I had it working in Ubuntu
prior to the current release which broke it (I tripple boot). So I know the
card is cabable of it. I just never got it working in Gentoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Dale]

Daevid Vincent wrote:
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Willie Wong [mailto:wwong@Princeton.EDU] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:41 PM
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the 
>> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 01:57:56PM -0800, Penguin Lover 
>> Daevid Vincent squawked:
>>     
>>> So this page finally loaded today:
>>> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL#nVidia
>>>
>>> And it says:
>>>       
>> Please do as you are told and read the OFFICIAL gentoo website?
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml
>>
>> Which clearly states: 
>>
>> -----begin snip---------
>> Older cards such as the GeForce 3 or GeForce 4 series require the 96.x
>> drivers. For these cards, you should mask 
>>     
>>> =x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-97.00 
>>>       
>> in your /etc/portage/package.mask file. This will prevent newer 
>> versions of the driver which are incompatible with your card 
>> from being 
>> installed. 
>> -----end snip-----------
>>
>> This information is also found on nVidia's website. 
>>
>> I have the (almost) exact same card as you do. It should not be a problem.
>>     
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk] 
>>
>> nvidia.com suggests using 96.43.05
>>     
>
> And, as I already posted twice now...
>
>   
>> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
>> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. 
>>     
>
> This driver is NOT working with my card.
>
> Perhaps I need to wipe out all the files (which ones?) or something and
> re-install it again, but I guarantee it's doing exactly as I said it is.
> Black screen when X starts.
>
> I'm curious if you have XGL working with it. I had it working in Ubuntu
> prior to the current release which broke it (I tripple boot). So I know the
> card is cabable of it. I just never got it working in Gentoo.
>
>   

Have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what is not working?  Also 
look in /var/log/kdm.log to see if there is any errors in there.  You 
may have other files that may have a error message that will give clues 
as to what is not working.

May help to post those as well.  even the commands like "cat 
/var/log/kdm.log | grep EE" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" may 
provide some info.

Also, try lsmod to see if the module is even loading at all.  I know 
sometimes my nvidia does not load when I update the kernel. 

These are just ideas but may be worth a try.

Dale

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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Daevid Vincent]

 
> >> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> >> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. 
> >>     
> > This driver is NOT working with my card.

Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same EXACT problem. It
all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X starts. Not like a
back-lit one either. Like "power off" black. I know X is running, I can see
the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I just can't see
anything.

> May help to post those as well.  even the commands like "cat 
> /var/log/kdm.log | grep EE" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 
> grep EE" may provide some info.

I don't run KDM or any other manager like that.

locutus ~ # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
Current Operating System: Linux locutus.daevid.com 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 #3
PREEMPT Tue Mar 4 18:28:41 PST 2008 i686
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER

Shows no errors that I see right?

> Also, try lsmod to see if the module is even loading at all.  I know 
> sometimes my nvidia does not load when I update the kernel. 

locutus ~ # lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia               4717848  0 

Thanks for the ideas, I think it's just this P.O.S. card and the fact that
nVidia is screwing me by not supporting it anymore in these later drivers.
Not sure why Willie's works though. That is curious, hopeful and frustrating
at the same time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Dale]

Daevid Vincent wrote:
>  
>   
>>>> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
>>>> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. 
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> This driver is NOT working with my card.
>>>       
>
> Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same EXACT problem. It
> all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X starts. Not like a
> back-lit one either. Like "power off" black. I know X is running, I can see
> the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I just can't see
> anything.
>
>   
>> May help to post those as well.  even the commands like "cat 
>> /var/log/kdm.log | grep EE" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 
>> grep EE" may provide some info.
>>     
>
> I don't run KDM or any other manager like that.
>
> locutus ~ # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
> Current Operating System: Linux locutus.daevid.com 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 #3
> PREEMPT Tue Mar 4 18:28:41 PST 2008 i686
>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
>
> Shows no errors that I see right?
>
>   
>> Also, try lsmod to see if the module is even loading at all.  I know 
>> sometimes my nvidia does not load when I update the kernel. 
>>     
>
> locutus ~ # lsmod | grep nvidia
> nvidia               4717848  0 
>
> Thanks for the ideas, I think it's just this P.O.S. card and the fact that
> nVidia is screwing me by not supporting it anymore in these later drivers.
> Not sure why Willie's works though. That is curious, hopeful and frustrating
> at the same time.
>
>   

I have a older card too, FX-5200 I think it is, and it seems to work 
fine.  I use nvidia-drivers-100.14.19 and it works fine but maybe mine 
is new enough to still be supported.  Looks like it would stay in the 
tree if it is the only driver that supports older cards.  Sort of confused.

I have read about this before either on this list or on the forums.  You 
searched the archives yet?  I'm clueless.  I never had trouble with 
nvidia drivers like this.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 07:05:37PM -0800, Penguin Lover Daevid Vincent squawked:
> locutus ~ # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
> Current Operating System: Linux locutus.daevid.com 2.6.23-gentoo-r9 #3
> PREEMPT Tue Mar 4 18:28:41 PST 2008 i686
>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
> 
> Shows no errors that I see right?

Hum, can you read the log to see if there's anything at all
suspicious? 

Good luck, 

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Henry Gebhardt]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
>
>  > >> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
>  > >> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen.
>  > >>
>  > > This driver is NOT working with my card.
>
>  Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same EXACT problem. It
>  all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X starts. Not like a
>  back-lit one either. Like "power off" black. I know X is running, I can see
>  the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I just can't see
>  anything.
 I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by
including the line

    Option         "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"

in the "Screen" section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't
use an external Monitor/Beamer.

>
>  Thanks for the ideas, I think it's just this P.O.S. card and the fact that
>  nVidia is screwing me by not supporting it anymore in these later drivers.
>  Not sure why Willie's works though. That is curious, hopeful and frustrating
>  at the same time.

I think nVidia is to blame! It once worked flawlessly.

Regards,
Henry
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Willie Wong]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:17:03PM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked:
>  I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by
> including the line
> 
>     Option         "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
> 
> in the "Screen" section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't
> use an external Monitor/Beamer.

Ah! That could be it. Sounds familiar. 

I've never tried connecting an external monitor or beamer, but have
you tried connecting the monitor, either commenting out the above line or
change it to "CRT" instead of "DFP", and starting x? From my
understanding, the problem is probably the driver trying to output, by
default, to the non-existing beamer/extern monitor. Your fix
effectively tells the driver to ignore all CRT devices and just output
to the DFP...

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Henry Gebhardt]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Willie Wong <wwong@princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 01:17:03PM +0100, Penguin Lover Henry Gebhardt squawked:
>
> >  I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by
>  > including the line
>  >
>  >     Option         "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
>  >
>  > in the "Screen" section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't
>  > use an external Monitor/Beamer.
>
>  Ah! That could be it. Sounds familiar.
>
>  I've never tried connecting an external monitor or beamer, but have
>  you tried connecting the monitor, either commenting out the above line or
>  change it to "CRT" instead of "DFP", and starting x? From my
>  understanding, the problem is probably the driver trying to output, by
>  default, to the non-existing beamer/extern monitor. Your fix
>  effectively tells the driver to ignore all CRT devices and just output
>  to the DFP...

Yes, indeed, commenting out that line starts the display on an external monitor.

With a bit of experimenting I now have instead

    Option         "TwinView" "true"
    Option         "TwinViewOrientation" "clone"

in my xorg.conf. Now I can switch between the external monitor and my
LCD by pressing the "Fn-CRT/LCD" key. However, I need to issue the
command "xrandr -s 1024x768", since the external monitor doesn't
support my default of 1400x1050. Does anyone know how to make the
virtual screen size default to one supported by both monitors?

Also, when connecting the external monitor I need to restart X. Would
be nicer if that weren't necessary. Ideas?

Henry
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RE: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back? [SOLVED]

[Daevid Vincent]

Well that seems to have fixed it. A million thanks Henry.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Gebhardt [mailto:hsggebhardt@googlemail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:17 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the 
> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:05 AM, Daevid Vincent 
> <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:
> >
> >  > >> I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> >  > >> Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen.
> >  > >>
> >  > > This driver is NOT working with my card.
> >
> >  Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same 
> EXACT problem. It
> >  all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X 
> starts. Not like a
> >  back-lit one either. Like "power off" black. I know X is 
> running, I can see
> >  the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I 
> just can't see
> >  anything.
>  I also have a nVidia 440 Go with the same problem. I fixed by
> including the line
> 
>     Option         "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
> 
> in the "Screen" section of /etc/X11/xorg.xonf. However, now I can't
> use an external Monitor/Beamer.
> 
> >
> >  Thanks for the ideas, I think it's just this P.O.S. card 
> and the fact that
> >  nVidia is screwing me by not supporting it anymore in 
> these later drivers.
> >  Not sure why Willie's works though. That is curious, 
> hopeful and frustrating
> >  at the same time.
> 
> I think nVidia is to blame! It once worked flawlessly.
> 
> Regards,
> Henry
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Daevid Vincent <daevid@daevid.com> wrote:

> Okay I followed the Wiki as instructed to the letter. Same EXACT problem. It
> all seems to go fine, but I get a black screen when X starts. Not like a
> back-lit one either. Like "power off" black. I know X is running, I can see
> the processes, and it doesn't seem locked up either. I just can't see
> anything.

At least your box's still running - that's an big improvement. 
On my box, each version I tried produced an complete lockup - even 
didn't need to start the Xserver for this. Obviously the kernel
module is heavily broken.

Debugging it showed up several strange things, like direct jumps 
into data areas (sometimes even static text strings), etc. 

Perhaps an similar issue like w/ Skype: they prefer investing their
dev resources into code obfuscation instead of providing an stable
product ;-O

All this leads me back back to the conclusion I already had about
10 years ago: *NEVER EVERY* buy Nvidia cards.
(I've made the big mistake buying an notebook with NV graphics, 
so I even can't replace it :(()


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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Alex Schuster]

Enrico Weigelt writes:

> All this leads me back back to the conclusion I already had about
> 10 years ago: *NEVER EVERY* buy Nvidia cards.
> (I've made the big mistake buying an notebook with NV graphics,
> so I even can't replace it :(()

Any suggestions on which video cards to buy? I also hate the trouble with 
Nvidia. But I once had an ATI card for a little while, and did not manage 
to get GLX to work, despite trying some howtos and different drivers.

What always worked flawless is Matrox cards, but they are slow when it comes 
to OpenGL.

Now I am using an old  GeForce 2, which is enough for my needs - simple 
OpenGL should work, and I want to be able to play Quake 3.

	Wonko
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Willie Wong]

On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 06:14:02PM -0800, Penguin Lover Daevid Vincent squawked:
> And, as I already posted twice now...
> 
> > I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> > Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen. 

Oops, sorry about that, short memory. 
> 
> This driver is NOT working with my card.
> 
> Perhaps I need to wipe out all the files (which ones?) or something and
> re-install it again, but I guarantee it's doing exactly as I said it is.
> Black screen when X starts.

No errors? That's weird. Okay, I hope this isn't something you have
also mentioned before: have you tried the 96.43.01 one that is
supposed to be stable (.05 is in ~)? It probably won't make
difference, what with the binary drivers being released by nVidia and
all that. 

If you really want to try the old ones:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html

> I'm curious if you have XGL working with it. I had it working in Ubuntu
> prior to the current release which broke it (I tripple boot). So I know the
> card is cabable of it. I just never got it working in Gentoo.

I tried once, a year or so, maybe more, ago. Some applications did not
play nice with it. And it was rather slow. So I stopped using it.
Haven't tried recently. 

Good luck, 

W

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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get the x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-1.0.8776-r1 back?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:14:02 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk] 
> >
> > nvidia.com suggests using 96.43.05  
> 
> And, as I already posted twice now...
> 
> > I emerge again, and it gives me 96.43.05.
> > Now when I start X, I have a blank/black screen.   
> 
> This driver is NOT working with my card.

I know. I didn't say you should use it, I just told you that Nvidia claim
it should work with your card, which indicates the fault may lie
elsewhere than the driver version. I also told you where to get the 8774
driver, did you try that?


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