From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE39138330 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C762E09A9; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-f67.google.com (mail-wm0-f67.google.com [74.125.82.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AED7E0925 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 14:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f67.google.com with SMTP id w84so686910wmg.0 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 07:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D/1UJhwa1i7olQApZtI2GnD4WpFMQ5xxiilAijW5lTQ=; b=W/qOO5TsxQkSn23Xlbc5ZR+wIW1M+zI3J4yaGHqRI7XivylToF6UBBsuNhaqrapoDQ J3k1j4c2SKrjnb/sbD48H57X94a9gWSCtM/V/4qqDRdvzEAPqyyZrIErQYxsaFegSqX8 vffbcjzDXaHWVqoJiGXqy7SDO+mbYzDIS/NhvKuEfHGuilOlIioxZrRvNA5zAOfKFdv9 BAmzHgN8EXVYahW+ECbjqc5Fddt+J8yRjqNKsWbXsb5B3Th2bKcqzkoSPaTE006RWm+C 7WslQf+PW0Bp+Xoz6JSE6I4Jp7rwpXTvf7oPtzn7kFSxDQho3QnPVtw3JHOgKETsQ2di tijg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=D/1UJhwa1i7olQApZtI2GnD4WpFMQ5xxiilAijW5lTQ=; b=kpx1xYVClCnaZM8BbZ64rX8z9weZ5l/Fm3pQNXULlWnAFu3/L37FFbgz/rA+h30qbi fzObnTm35UjndBhDRWLxtWTgJGfKWtonkL/z5oYF/MOV8LdCPGFs8LO9UVt+SUR/kYm/ uHYMNtbTtmPLdciP0DYiQBlkNlmSRgQXnnrecY7cZOoIE83GOpUFvzhSG+o0csfF2rB0 z5dh8p5FTRbmSjd7y4YCGDnTdvEVsl+SoWBH+fEnCrWCe47swdtRZEJxjPAClc3ppAnp zewsLxd7e7WbbYnKZ5sW7isOqwWWbXBx8WAwp4oT17mQ/3FsfZWVUegcvXohE71AdUu7 RW2g== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwP8LdDHr/Pbqye7UeUxCm9/YgAQK51CMunwatcQWqTRbMVxfpOfONtraFqkmC1rJQ== X-Received: by 10.28.74.156 with SMTP id n28mr323541wmi.96.1474121968928; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 07:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.0.40] ([196.212.62.210]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id k2sm12344739wmg.23.2016.09.17.07.19.27 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Sep 2016 07:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update blocked by kdebase-startkde:4 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <201607092052.46760.robin@binro.org> <57B09A3C.9000702@gmail.com> <201608150017.27503.robin@binro.org> <201609172026.19119.robin@binro.org> From: Alan McKinnon Message-ID: <19f9b5c3-c189-eadb-25ad-15f9f2e76186@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 16:18:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201609172026.19119.robin@binro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 44d0d927-4d64-48f8-8422-321050824d93 X-Archives-Hash: 81c9f232993dfd3d77fcf4b7c6c9c962 On 17/09/2016 15:26, Robin Atwood wrote: > On Monday 15 August 2016, Robin Atwood wrote: > >> On Sunday 14 August 2016, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> > On 08/14/2016 05:12 AM, Robin Atwood wrote: > >> > > 'layman -L' finds no kde-sunset. > >> > > >> > I had that problem too, it's not listed there. > >> > > >> > If you want to use it, create /etc/portage/repos.conf/kde-sunset.conf > >> > with these contents: > >> > > >> > [kde-sunset] > >> > auto-sync = yes > >> > location = /var/local/overlays/kde-sunset > >> > masters = gentoo > >> > sync-type = git > >> > sync-uri = https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/proj/kde-sunset.git > >> > > >> > Dan > >> > >> Dan- > > > > I tried it and got: > > > > # layman -s kde-sunset > > > > * Fetching remote list... > > * Fetch Ok > > > > * Syncing selected overlay(s)... > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/layman/api.py", line 394, in sync > > odb = db.select(ovl) > > File "/usr/lib64/python3.4/site-packages/layman/dbbase.py", line 260, in > select > > raise UnknownOverlayException(overlay) > > layman.dbbase.UnknownOverlayException: Exception: Overlay "kde-sunset" > does not exist. > > > > This is becoming a problem because now I also get when updating Gentoo: > > > > # emerge -uDv @world > > > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > > > > !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd:5" have > been masked. > > !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your > request: > > - kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd-5.7.5::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, > ~amd64 keyword) > > - kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd-5.7.4::gentoo (masked by: package.mask, > ~amd64 keyword) > > - kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd-5.6.5::gentoo (masked by: package.mask) > > > > (dependency required by "kde-base/kactivities-4.13.3-r2::gentoo" > [installed]) > > (dependency required by "kde-apps/okular-16.04.3::gentoo[kde]" [ebuild]) > > (dependency required by "@selected" [set]) > > (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) > > > > looking at the kactivities ebuild I see: > > > > RDEPEND=" > > kde-plasma/kactivitymanagerd:5 > > " > > > > So KDE4 users are no longer allowed to update Gentoo? What a peculiar odd thing to say. You might want to revisit your word choice there. A better expression might be "if I have KDE4 installed and don't want to have KDE5, then due to the fact that upstream does not support KDE4 at all and that few if any gentoo devs are interested in maintaining KDE4 ebuilds, blockers and deps have now tipped over the edge and mathematically there is no valid update path left. Oh dear; the devs did say if I wantot carry on using KDE4 that bitrot will bite me. I guess that happened now." Because that is probably what happened. You let your computer stay static will the ecosystem moved on, and now you get to keep all the broken bits. It sunds crude but at this point you are on your own. Someone needs to maintain those ebuilds so that the system can continue to work, your best choice right now for who that person is, is you. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com