[gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

Hi there.

I have a "stable" system (I don't have ~x86 set), but I like to have
the latest versions of some specific software (kde, gnome, amarok,
alsa, pulseaudio, wine and so on). To achieve that, I've been using
autounmask with the parameter -n. When I have a package I want to keep
in the latest version, I just autounmask -n package, so all the
dependencies are unmasked and no version number is appended.

That works fine, but I like to have the latest released versions,
which means I usually want to get away from the *9999 ebuilds. The
trouble is, when I use autounmask without version numbers, those 9999
packages usually are choosen by portage, for being the effective
latest ones.

I would like to know if there is a way for me to unmask (automatically
if possible) all versions BUT the 9999 ones, so I have the latest
releases but the less CVS/Beta packages as possible.

Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> I have a "stable" system (I don't have ~x86 set), but I like to have
> the latest versions of some specific software (kde, gnome, amarok,
> alsa, pulseaudio, wine and so on). To achieve that, I've been using
> autounmask with the parameter -n. When I have a package I want to
> keep in the latest version, I just autounmask -n package, so all the
> dependencies are unmasked and no version number is appended.
>
> That works fine, but I like to have the latest released versions,
> which means I usually want to get away from the *9999 ebuilds. The
> trouble is, when I use autounmask without version numbers, those 9999
> packages usually are choosen by portage, for being the effective
> latest ones.
>
> I would like to know if there is a way for me to unmask
> (automatically if possible) all versions BUT the 9999 ones, so I have
> the latest releases but the less CVS/Beta packages as possible.

I find autounmask does way too much for me, and does it blindly just 
like a dumb computer should. so I do it manually. However, you are 
using -n and at the same time trying to use it without -n...

Trying deleting the autounmask files in /etc/portage/package.unmask/, 
that should go a long way to removing the CVS stuff (which is usually 
hard masked) leaving just package.keywords. You might have to manually 
resolve some conflicts now and then though - small price



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

That's the way I did it before, you know... but it really comes to be
a pain in the ass when you want to test some new supercool releases
with tons of dependencies, such as kde-4 and so on.

However that's some neat tip, I haven't though on the possibility of
leaving just package.keywords, I'm giving it a try just right now!
Thanks a lot!

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  > Hi there.
>  >
>  > I have a "stable" system (I don't have ~x86 set), but I like to have
>  > the latest versions of some specific software (kde, gnome, amarok,
>  > alsa, pulseaudio, wine and so on). To achieve that, I've been using
>  > autounmask with the parameter -n. When I have a package I want to
>  > keep in the latest version, I just autounmask -n package, so all the
>  > dependencies are unmasked and no version number is appended.
>  >
>  > That works fine, but I like to have the latest released versions,
>  > which means I usually want to get away from the *9999 ebuilds. The
>  > trouble is, when I use autounmask without version numbers, those 9999
>  > packages usually are choosen by portage, for being the effective
>  > latest ones.
>  >
>  > I would like to know if there is a way for me to unmask
>  > (automatically if possible) all versions BUT the 9999 ones, so I have
>  > the latest releases but the less CVS/Beta packages as possible.
>
>  I find autounmask does way too much for me, and does it blindly just
>  like a dumb computer should. so I do it manually. However, you are
>  using -n and at the same time trying to use it without -n...
>
>  Trying deleting the autounmask files in /etc/portage/package.unmask/,
>  that should go a long way to removing the CVS stuff (which is usually
>  hard masked) leaving just package.keywords. You might have to manually
>  resolve some conflicts now and then though - small price
>
>
>
>  --
>  Alan McKinnon
>  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>  --
>  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> That's the way I did it before, you know... but it really comes to be
> a pain in the ass when you want to test some new supercool releases
> with tons of dependencies, such as kde-4 and so on.

Tell me about it, been there done that, I feel your pain :-)

> However that's some neat tip, I haven't though on the possibility of
> leaving just package.keywords, I'm giving it a try just right now!
> Thanks a lot!

It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us know if 
it mostly works out.



>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Alan McKinnon 
<alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> >  > Hi there.
> >  >
> >  > I have a "stable" system (I don't have ~x86 set), but I like to
> >  > have the latest versions of some specific software (kde, gnome,
> >  > amarok, alsa, pulseaudio, wine and so on). To achieve that, I've
> >  > been using autounmask with the parameter -n. When I have a
> >  > package I want to keep in the latest version, I just autounmask
> >  > -n package, so all the dependencies are unmasked and no version
> >  > number is appended.
> >  >
> >  > That works fine, but I like to have the latest released
> >  > versions, which means I usually want to get away from the *9999
> >  > ebuilds. The trouble is, when I use autounmask without version
> >  > numbers, those 9999 packages usually are choosen by portage, for
> >  > being the effective latest ones.
> >  >
> >  > I would like to know if there is a way for me to unmask
> >  > (automatically if possible) all versions BUT the 9999 ones, so I
> >  > have the latest releases but the less CVS/Beta packages as
> >  > possible.
> >
> >  I find autounmask does way too much for me, and does it blindly
> > just like a dumb computer should. so I do it manually. However, you
> > are using -n and at the same time trying to use it without -n...
> >
> >  Trying deleting the autounmask files in
> > /etc/portage/package.unmask/, that should go a long way to removing
> > the CVS stuff (which is usually hard masked) leaving just
> > package.keywords. You might have to manually resolve some conflicts
> > now and then though - small price
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Alan McKinnon
> >  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
> >
> >  --
> >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
> --
> Gustavo Campos
>
> Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

Compile time =)

Actually when I ripped off package.unmask, the kde-4 tree just got
crazy, so I moved back only autounmask-kde-meta. After that,
alsa-driver, which was at -9999 wanted to go back to 1.0.15, that
doesn't compile (bug in bugs.gentoo), so I'm now compiling alsa
in-kernel, but ir pretty much seems to be working out (thinking about
an emerge -C `equery list | grep 9999 | xargs` now)...

Anyway, I believe I got planty of time, it's raining a f***ing lot
here and I'm not inclined to be on my way to the University ^^

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>
> > That's the way I did it before, you know... but it really comes to be
>  > a pain in the ass when you want to test some new supercool releases
>  > with tons of dependencies, such as kde-4 and so on.
>
>  Tell me about it, been there done that, I feel your pain :-)
>
>
>  > However that's some neat tip, I haven't though on the possibility of
>  > leaving just package.keywords, I'm giving it a try just right now!
>  > Thanks a lot!
>
>  It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us know if
>  it mostly works out.
>
>
>
>
>
>  >
>  > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Alan McKinnon
>  <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > On Friday 14 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  > >  > Hi there.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I have a "stable" system (I don't have ~x86 set), but I like to
>  > >  > have the latest versions of some specific software (kde, gnome,
>  > >  > amarok, alsa, pulseaudio, wine and so on). To achieve that, I've
>  > >  > been using autounmask with the parameter -n. When I have a
>  > >  > package I want to keep in the latest version, I just autounmask
>  > >  > -n package, so all the dependencies are unmasked and no version
>  > >  > number is appended.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > That works fine, but I like to have the latest released
>  > >  > versions, which means I usually want to get away from the *9999
>  > >  > ebuilds. The trouble is, when I use autounmask without version
>  > >  > numbers, those 9999 packages usually are choosen by portage, for
>  > >  > being the effective latest ones.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I would like to know if there is a way for me to unmask
>  > >  > (automatically if possible) all versions BUT the 9999 ones, so I
>  > >  > have the latest releases but the less CVS/Beta packages as
>  > >  > possible.
>  > >
>  > >  I find autounmask does way too much for me, and does it blindly
>  > > just like a dumb computer should. so I do it manually. However, you
>  > > are using -n and at the same time trying to use it without -n...
>  > >
>  > >  Trying deleting the autounmask files in
>  > > /etc/portage/package.unmask/, that should go a long way to removing
>  > > the CVS stuff (which is usually hard masked) leaving just
>  > > package.keywords. You might have to manually resolve some conflicts
>  > > now and then though - small price
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  --
>  > >  Alan McKinnon
>  > >  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>  > >
>  > >  --
>  > >  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>  >
>  > --
>  > Gustavo Campos
>  >
>  > Ciência da Computação / Computer Science - UFMG
>
>
>
>  --
>
>
> Alan McKinnon
>  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>  --
>  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

> It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us know if 
> it mostly works out.

Does this Go with "Mostly Harmless" too?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us
> > know if it mostly works out.
>
> Does this Go with "Mostly Harmless" too?

Not really. If it doesn't work, the Vogons drop by to see why.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
| On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|>> It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us
|>> know if it mostly works out.
|> Does this Go with "Mostly Harmless" too?
|
| Not really. If it doesn't work, the Vogons drop by to see why.
|

How about some Poetry ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> |>> It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us
> |>> know if it mostly works out.
> |>
> |> Does this Go with "Mostly Harmless" too?
> |
> | Not really. If it doesn't work, the Vogons drop by to see why.
>
> How about some Poetry ...

My intestines are feeling an urge to leap out my throat and strangle me. 
Lucky for me though, I don't live in Islington!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
| On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|> Alan McKinnon wrote:
|> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|> |>> It was just an idea that came to me, completely untested. Let us
|> |>> know if it mostly works out.
|> |>
|> |> Does this Go with "Mostly Harmless" too?
|> |
|> | Not really. If it doesn't work, the Vogons drop by to see why.
|>
|> How about some Poetry ...
|
| My intestines are feeling an urge to leap out my throat and strangle me.
| Lucky for me though, I don't live in Islington!
|

I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
question answered?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
> question answered?

Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got an 
answer that satisfied him for now

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
| On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|> Alan McKinnon wrote:
|
|> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
|> question answered?
|
| Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got an
| answer that satisfied him for now
|


Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of space
for twenty-nine seconds?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> |>
> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
> |> question answered?
> |
> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
> | an answer that satisfied him for now
>
> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
> space for twenty-nine seconds?

I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my 
beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English. 
Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer 
this morning...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
| On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|> Alan McKinnon wrote:
|> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
|> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
|> |>
|> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
|> |> question answered?
|> |
|> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
|> | an answer that satisfied him for now
|>
|> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
|> space for twenty-nine seconds?
|
| I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
| beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
| Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
| this morning...
|


Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

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Well, if anyone cares about it (emo mode) it worked reasonably nice.
Actually I had a bit less cvs packages then I originally though, but still I
was able to get rid of most of them. Only compiz and scrollkeeper remain.
One because of fusion-icon (how can one live without it?) and other cause of
some nonsense gnome dependecy.

The only real drive-off was some kde-4 and amule-2.2 hardmasking, but
nothing that would make me rip my own throat, for now.

And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
jokes, I'm a south american and many of the jokes you tell doesn't make too
many sense to me (a-ha, now you know why my english is that crappy) (emo
mode off)

Anyway thanks everyone. And please, be careful with that axe!

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:

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> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> |> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> |> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> |> |>
> |> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
> |> |> question answered?
> |> |
> |> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
> |> | an answer that satisfied him for now
> |>
> |> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
> |> space for twenty-nine seconds?
> |
> | I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
> | beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
> | Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
> | this morning...
> |
>
>
> Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
> drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Gustavo Campos wrote:
| Well, if anyone cares about it (emo mode) it worked reasonably nice.
| Actually I had a bit less cvs packages then I originally though, but
| still I was able to get rid of most of them. Only compiz and
| scrollkeeper remain. One because of fusion-icon (how can one live
| without it?) and other cause of some nonsense gnome dependecy.

Damned evil dependencies

| The only real drive-off was some kde-4 and amule-2.2 hardmasking, but
| nothing that would make me rip my own throat, for now.

hardmasks can be a headache if you don't know where to look ... although
the clue *is* in the error msg :D

| And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
| jokes, I'm a south american and many of the jokes you tell doesn't make
| too many sense to me (a-ha, now you know why my english is that crappy)
| (emo mode off)
|
| Anyway thanks everyone. And please, be careful with that axe!


Ax aside, do you have a towel? I have mine. Alan has his. But do you
have yours?

Maybe we should involve Marvin, "I think you ought to know I'm feeling
very depressed."/DA


| On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net
| <mailto:xaero@xaerolimit.net>> wrote:
|
|
|
| Alan McKinnon wrote:
| | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
| |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
| |> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
| |> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
| |> |>
| |> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
| |> |> question answered?
| |> |
| |> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
| |> | an answer that satisfied him for now
| |>
| |> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
| |> space for twenty-nine seconds?
| |
| | I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
| | beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
| | Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
| | this morning...
| |
|
|
| Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
| drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

Man, I've got many towels, you woudn't believe.

You know, it's damn f****ng hot here, sometimes you need to take 2
baths a day (sorry guys, I know water is as precious as women, but if
you come to visit us you'll understand it).

And about Marvin, I'm proud to say that I'm the 42 shirt of my
university soccer team, kinda nerdy for a computer science student
huh?

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> Gustavo Campos wrote:
> | Well, if anyone cares about it (emo mode) it worked reasonably nice.
> | Actually I had a bit less cvs packages then I originally though, but
> | still I was able to get rid of most of them. Only compiz and
> | scrollkeeper remain. One because of fusion-icon (how can one live
> | without it?) and other cause of some nonsense gnome dependecy.
>
> Damned evil dependencies
>
>
> | The only real drive-off was some kde-4 and amule-2.2 hardmasking, but
> | nothing that would make me rip my own throat, for now.
>
> hardmasks can be a headache if you don't know where to look ... although
> the clue *is* in the error msg :D
>
>
> | And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
> | jokes, I'm a south american and many of the jokes you tell doesn't make
> | too many sense to me (a-ha, now you know why my english is that crappy)
> | (emo mode off)
> |
> | Anyway thanks everyone. And please, be careful with that axe!
>
>
> Ax aside, do you have a towel? I have mine. Alan has his. But do you
> have yours?
>
> Maybe we should involve Marvin, "I think you ought to know I'm feeling
> very depressed."/DA
>
>
>
> | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net
>
> | <mailto:xaero@xaerolimit.net>> wrote:
> |
> |
> |
> | Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> | |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | |> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> | |> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> | |> |>
> | |> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
> | |> |> question answered?
> | |> |
> | |> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
> | |> | an answer that satisfied him for now
> | |>
> | |> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
> | |> space for twenty-nine seconds?
> | |
> | | I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
> | | beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
> | | Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
> | | this morning...
> | |
> |
> |
> | Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
> | drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
> - --
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>
> mailing list
>
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Welcome to the Fold! Us nerds should get together and put up the end-all
Guide discussions ... should be pretty awesome :D

Hot, Cold, Wet ... it's all the same .. But taking a bath just to make a
meaningless and preportedly major decision, now that is a feat wholly on
it's own worth noting :D


Gustavo Campos wrote:
| Man, I've got many towels, you woudn't believe.
|
| You know, it's damn f****ng hot here, sometimes you need to take 2
| baths a day (sorry guys, I know water is as precious as women, but if
| you come to visit us you'll understand it).
|
| And about Marvin, I'm proud to say that I'm the 42 shirt of my
| university soccer team, kinda nerdy for a computer science student
| huh?
|
| On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net>
wrote:
|
|
|
| Gustavo Campos wrote:
| | Well, if anyone cares about it (emo mode) it worked reasonably nice.
| | Actually I had a bit less cvs packages then I originally though, but
| | still I was able to get rid of most of them. Only compiz and
| | scrollkeeper remain. One because of fusion-icon (how can one live
| | without it?) and other cause of some nonsense gnome dependecy.
|
| Damned evil dependencies
|
|
| | The only real drive-off was some kde-4 and amule-2.2 hardmasking, but
| | nothing that would make me rip my own throat, for now.
|
| hardmasks can be a headache if you don't know where to look ... although
| the clue *is* in the error msg :D
|
|
| | And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
| | jokes, I'm a south american and many of the jokes you tell doesn't make
| | too many sense to me (a-ha, now you know why my english is that crappy)
| | (emo mode off)
| |
| | Anyway thanks everyone. And please, be careful with that axe!
|
|
| Ax aside, do you have a towel? I have mine. Alan has his. But do you
| have yours?
|
| Maybe we should involve Marvin, "I think you ought to know I'm feeling
| very depressed."/DA
|
|
|
| | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net
|
| | <mailto:xaero@xaerolimit.net>> wrote:
| |
| |
| |
| | Alan McKinnon wrote:
| | | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
| | |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
| | |> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
| | |> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
| | |> |>
| | |> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
| | |> |> question answered?
| | |> |
| | |> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
| | |> | an answer that satisfied him for now
| | |>
| | |> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
| | |> space for twenty-nine seconds?
| | |
| | | I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
| | | beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
| | | Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
| | | this morning...
| | |
| |
| |
| | Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
| | drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
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|>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

>  Welcome to the Fold! Us nerds should get together and put up the end-all
>  Guide discussions ... should be pretty awesome :D

I'm pretty sure we can think an algorithm for that

Maybe even an O(n).

>  Hot, Cold, Wet ... it's all the same .. But taking a bath just to make a
>  meaningless and preportedly major decision, now that is a feat wholly on
>  it's own worth noting :D

I'd like to say that I believed one day I would run off the bath,
naked, screaming "eureka, I found the linear-time solution for the
travelling salesman", but I'm actually more likely to run off, naked
as well, but screaming:  "damnit, I forgot my lunch on the fire!"

>
>
>
>  Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  | Man, I've got many towels, you woudn't believe.
>  |
>  | You know, it's damn f****ng hot here, sometimes you need to take 2
>  | baths a day (sorry guys, I know water is as precious as women, but if
>  | you come to visit us you'll understand it).
>  |
>  | And about Marvin, I'm proud to say that I'm the 42 shirt of my
>  | university soccer team, kinda nerdy for a computer science student
>  | huh?
>  |
>  | On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net>
>  wrote:
>  |
>  |
>  |
>
>
> | Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  | | Well, if anyone cares about it (emo mode) it worked reasonably nice.
>  | | Actually I had a bit less cvs packages then I originally though, but
>  | | still I was able to get rid of most of them. Only compiz and
>  | | scrollkeeper remain. One because of fusion-icon (how can one live
>  | | without it?) and other cause of some nonsense gnome dependecy.
>  |
>  | Damned evil dependencies
>  |
>  |
>  | | The only real drive-off was some kde-4 and amule-2.2 hardmasking, but
>  | | nothing that would make me rip my own throat, for now.
>  |
>  | hardmasks can be a headache if you don't know where to look ... although
>  | the clue *is* in the error msg :D
>  |
>  |
>  | | And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
>  | | jokes, I'm a south american and many of the jokes you tell doesn't make
>  | | too many sense to me (a-ha, now you know why my english is that crappy)
>  | | (emo mode off)
>  | |
>  | | Anyway thanks everyone. And please, be careful with that axe!
>  |
>  |
>  | Ax aside, do you have a towel? I have mine. Alan has his. But do you
>  | have yours?
>  |
>  | Maybe we should involve Marvin, "I think you ought to know I'm feeling
>  | very depressed."/DA
>  |
>  |
>  |
>  | | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net
>  |
>  | | <mailto:xaero@xaerolimit.net>> wrote:
>  | |
>  | |
>  | |
>  | | Alan McKinnon wrote:
>  | | | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
>  | | |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>  | | |> | On Friday 14 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
>  | | |> |> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>  | | |> |>
>  | | |> |> I do think ... we have hijacked this thread ... was the original
>  | | |> |> question answered?
>  | | |> |
>  | | |> | Yes :-) At least until the OP can do some further tests, but he got
>  | | |> | an answer that satisfied him for now
>  | | |>
>  | | |> Oh OK Good then. So what's next ... shall we suffer the vacuum of
>  | | |> space for twenty-nine seconds?
>  | | |
>  | | | I honestly don't know what you are on about - this rabbit bone in my
>  | | | beard must be interfering with my ability to understand plain English.
>  | | | Or maybe it was the insane conversation with the telephone sanitizer
>  | | | this morning...
>  | | |
>  | |
>  | |
>  | | Ok then, a ride on a velvet paisley-covered Chesterfield sofa and we'll
>  | | drop in on a match at Lord's Cricket Ground. SEP anyone?
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>
> |>
>  |>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 15 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> And about Marvin, I'm proud to say that I'm the 42 shirt of my
> university soccer team, kinda nerdy for a computer science student
> huh?

You got the #42 shirt??? Wow. You're a real frood.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 15 March 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:
> Welcome to the Fold! Us nerds should get together and put up the
> end-all Guide discussions ... should be pretty awesome :D
>
> Hot, Cold, Wet ... it's all the same .. But taking a bath just to
> make a meaningless and preportedly major decision, now that is a feat
> wholly on it's own worth noting :D

I don't think I agree with that on the whole. I think it takes a bath 
and at least three slices of Bovril toast IIRC

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:50:16 -0300, Gustavo Campos wrote:

> And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
> jokes,

The entire Galaxy isn't global enough for you?


-- 
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Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

Well, I must admit I'm not really in the position to negate that one.
Not a so travelled man, you know?

The truth is that it take me some time to notice you guys were talking
about our bible-like-one-that-works-e-book, I'm used to read English,
but mostly that one in the tech books.

But never fear, I just discovered urbandictionary.com and from now on
by any means our communication shall be inaccurate. And I'm also
starting to learn how to trust in gmail's spell checker (my gmail is
in engliish, which makes it a bit nonsense to correct my usually
Portuguese mail)

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:50:16 -0300, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>
>  > And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
>  > jokes,
>
>  The entire Galaxy isn't global enough for you?
>
>
>  --
>  Neil Bothwick
>
>  Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive.
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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well we could all just give up and communicate in binary .... You can
read and right binary can't you?

Gustavo Campos wrote:
| Well, I must admit I'm not really in the position to negate that one.
| Not a so travelled man, you know?
|
| The truth is that it take me some time to notice you guys were talking
| about our bible-like-one-that-works-e-book, I'm used to read English,
| but mostly that one in the tech books.
|
| But never fear, I just discovered urbandictionary.com and from now on
| by any means our communication shall be inaccurate. And I'm also
| starting to learn how to trust in gmail's spell checker (my gmail is
| in engliish, which makes it a bit nonsense to correct my usually
| Portuguese mail)
|
| On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
|> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:50:16 -0300, Gustavo Campos wrote:
|>
|>  > And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
|>  > jokes,
|>
|>  The entire Galaxy isn't global enough for you?
|>
|>
|>  --
|>  Neil Bothwick
|>
|>  Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive.
|>
|
|
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

Of course I can, but first we must state:

little or big endian?
compliment by two?

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Chris Brennan <xaero@xaerolimit.net> wrote:
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>  well we could all just give up and communicate in binary .... You can
>  read and right binary can't you?
>
>
>
>  Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  | Well, I must admit I'm not really in the position to negate that one.
>  | Not a so travelled man, you know?
>  |
>  | The truth is that it take me some time to notice you guys were talking
>  | about our bible-like-one-that-works-e-book, I'm used to read English,
>  | but mostly that one in the tech books.
>  |
>  | But never fear, I just discovered urbandictionary.com and from now on
>  | by any means our communication shall be inaccurate. And I'm also
>  | starting to learn how to trust in gmail's spell checker (my gmail is
>  | in engliish, which makes it a bit nonsense to correct my usually
>  | Portuguese mail)
>  |
>  | On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>  |> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:50:16 -0300, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  |>
>  |>  > And for instance, I would apprecciate if you guys made some globalized
>  |>  > jokes,
>  |>
>  |>  The entire Galaxy isn't global enough for you?
>  |>
>  |>
>  |>  --
>  |>  Neil Bothwick
>  |>
>  |>  Micro-: (prefix) anything both very small and very expensive.
>  |>
>  |
>  |
>  |
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Alan McKinnon]

On Saturday 15 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
> Of course I can, but first we must state:
>
> little or big endian?
> compliment by two?


Pah! These cocky youngsters, all full of bright ideas about using fancy 
new-fangled stuff. What is this endian nonsense of which you speak? And 
this twos compliment garbage? We don't need no steenken twos 
compliment:

We use BCD



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Gustavo Campos]

BCD is good, but time goes on, we must improve, we must evolve.

We thrived, we evolved, not the time has come for us to step back
again, into the light.

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday 15 March 2008, Gustavo Campos wrote:
>  > Of course I can, but first we must state:
>  >
>  > little or big endian?
>  > compliment by two?
>
>
>  Pah! These cocky youngsters, all full of bright ideas about using fancy
>  new-fangled stuff. What is this endian nonsense of which you speak? And
>  this twos compliment garbage? We don't need no steenken twos
>  compliment:
>
>  We use BCD
>
>
>
>
>  --
>  Alan McKinnon
>  alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>  --
>
>
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>
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] Accept all versions but 9999

[Chris Brennan]

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Gustavo Campos wrote:
| BCD is good, but time goes on, we must improve, we must evolve.
|
| We thrived, we evolved, not the time has come for us to step back
| again, into the light.


Every generation has a mythology. Every millennium has a doomsday cult.
Every legend gets the distortion knob wound up until the speaker melts.
Archaeologists at the University of Helsinki today uncovered what could
be the earliest known writings from the Cult of Tux, a fanatical
religious sect that flourished during the early Silicon Age, around the
dawn of the third millennium AD...
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