From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF253138A1C for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:14:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49D90E0940; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37968E08B0 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 00:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [142.196.200.180] ([142.196.200.180:33509] helo=navi.localnet) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 09/FC-08188-CCC2F155; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 00:14:04 +0000 From: Fernando Rodriguez To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Question of quantum computer Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 20:13:09 -0400 Message-ID: <1982851.CdZo6kmKGd@navi> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (Linux/3.19.1; KDE/4.14.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <551F28DF.5070800@gmail.com> References: <1478951.WCFfi6fabA@navi> <551F28DF.5070800@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Archives-Salt: 3bfe70b2-41ce-4be5-aa31-e990032721fb X-Archives-Hash: cd6ffa8f75bfd14bb985389df67c8282 On Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:57:19 AM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 03/04/2015 23:11, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > > That's the problem with science in general. The one thing it may never be able > > to answer is "why?". Take gravity as an example. We got really good models for > > it, we can predict how it influences even light with great accuracy but what > > are the underlying mechanisms? We may never know. Einstein would say it's > > because matter bends space, but what is the underlying mechanism for that? We > > just take his word for it because he gave us equations that work better than > > anything else we've come up with so far. > > > The scientific community is very well aware that it cannot answer the > question "why?", and in fact, true science doesn't even try. > > Science never proves anything, it only fails to disprove a realistic > workable model. > > For the sake of simplicity and brevity we often says "according to > Einstein's theory matter bands space so therefore..." or even simplify > that to "matter bands space so therefore...", all the time understanding > that it's just a model, and could be totally wrong about the real > underlying truth. > > This is in no way a "problem" with science. It is by design. That's exactly the point I was trying to make. Should've read more like "If that's a problem with quantum physics then it's a problem with science in general..." -- Fernando Rodriguez