From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDyoW-0004pg-TN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3C0BE079C; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0718E079B for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8012965910 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.311 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.311 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IB+zsNFba0RM for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BFDB401D for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JDynz-0003Jw-LH for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:06:59 +0000 Received: from 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.72.87.192]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:06:59 +0000 Received: from michael.schmarck by 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:06:59 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Schmarck Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:06:51 +0100 Message-ID: <1945355.vdhgXyNiVQ@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch User-Agent: KNode/0.10.5 Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 48d6405a-da1c-49dd-8b22-6781acb79fe1 X-Archives-Hash: d41eba526c0a47b2185a2f4c3b49da0c =C2=B7 James : > Michael Schmarck habmalnefrage.de> writes: >=20 >=20 >> Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I >> also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast.=20 >=20 > Folks new to gentoo, would find it suspicious, for a distro not to have > it's own install..... Why's that? The documentation should just point to some other install CDs, if you'd like to call GRML that. > Other forks of Gentoo have their install methods.=20 Nice for them. > For those new to gentoo, it's like getting married without a honeymoon.= ... > IMHO. I don't get that. >> To install Gentoo, I'd boot my favorite "rescue system" (GRMl nowadays= , >> Knoppix back then, but IMO Knoppix is too "fat" for *this* *task*) >> and install from there. No need for an install CD. >=20 > OK, fine, then why doesn't of the persons that says it so easy, just ta= ke > a GRMl (or whatever) cd and add the minimal (non gui) stuff to the sam= e=20 > cd and make a simple to use 'install cd' for gentoo that is unofficial? Why should that be done? GRML (or whatever) come with their own GUI. And for the installation of Gentoo, the only "GUI" that's needed, is a terminal. > Wouldn't it be easy for all of those whose answer this installation=20 > question over and over and over, to make a basic install cd on top of G= RMl > once and be done with it? No. That would outdate as well and wouldn't support newer hardware. But what would be gained by doing what you suggest? >> As far as I'm concerned, the Gentoo install CD could easily be dropped >> without a loss. >=20 > Well, I differ with this statement 100%. Fine. Why? > What, IMHO, needs to happened is the=20 > whole install process be changed to a minimal working kernel and basic = tools. That's what you get, when you use some other Live CD like Ubuntu or whatever. [...] > the SD media when he runs out of disk space. That's the kind of project > where embedded gentoo and gentoo workstations need "seemless" > integration. Cool :) But what does that have to do with an installation CD? Michael Schmarck --=20 If you don't see why, please stay the fuck away from my code. Rusty, in linux-2.6.6/Documentation/DocBook/kernel-locking.tmpl = =20 --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list