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[217.169.3.230]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e5sm5751974wma.13.2016.09.07.12.28.36 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Sep 2016 12:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Mick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wastebin or trash? Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:28:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1942358.p1XUsEjg4I@dell_xps> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (Linux/4.4.6-gentoo; KDE/4.14.20; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2985253.X3bczSHdg9@peak> <20160907175350.GC2524@anonymous> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2737188.QZ2GZ19PhL"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 1d5145e5-29d1-4824-8bc5-20287349d716 X-Archives-Hash: e98ab39f0e7e460b9e9d3393de51b25a --nextPart2737188.QZ2GZ19PhL Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Wednesday 07 Sep 2016 20:51:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 07/09/2016 19:53, Simon Thelen wrote: > > On 16-09-07 at 18:41, Mick wrote: > >> On Thursday 08 Sep 2016 00:47:13 Andrew Lowe wrote: > >>> On 07/09/16 23:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>>> Hello list, > >>>>=20 > >>>> As I said in the "emerge @system" thread, I've built a fresh ~am= d64 > >>>> system > >>>> on this i7 box. I also created a new user directory for myself, = copying > >>>> in > >>>> only .bash*, .gkrellm2 and .mozilla. > >>>>=20 > >>>> After spending a good long time setting up KDE and friends just = the way > >>>> I > >>>> like them, the one remaining task was to set up KMail and import= my > >>>> 1000-or- so messages. That worked all right, with just the one s= ame > >>>> exception as before: KMail's recycle bin is call "trash" in the = folder > >>>> list, but the right-click menu on it offers to "empty wastebin".= > >>>>=20 > >>>> I'm sure I have all my linguas, l10ns i18ns and everything set u= p > >>>> right, > >>>> so > >>>> I think I'm just seeing an intermediate stage in KMail developme= nt. > >>>>=20 > >>>> Is anyone else seeing this? > >>>>=20 > >>> =09I'm reading this whilst sitting in Perth, Australia so both sh= ould=20 read > >>>=20 > >>> "Rubbish Bin" or possibly "Wheelie Bin" ;) > >>=20 > >> One IMAP4 account of mine shows 'Bin' and another shows 'Trash'. = As I > >> understand it you need to configure the locale on the mail server.= > >=20 > > IMAP itself does not have a concept of "Trash", the creation of suc= h a > > mailbox is the prerogative of the client (unless the server itself = feels > > that the imap client doesn't know what it's doing and moves deleted= > > emails into a different mailbox; not that I've ever seen a mail ser= ver > > do that), therefore changing the locale on the mail server won't he= lp > > and it is indeed something on the client that needs to be changed. Yes, you're right. The IMAP4 protocol uses tags to signify deleted mess= ages,=20 which until they are expunged stay on the server. Most mail clients typically move messages flagged as deleted into a=20 bin/trash/deleted IMAP4 mailbox (i.e. the representation of a mail clie= nt=20 folder) if configured to do so. The name of the mailbox is down to the= user,=20 if created manually, or down to the presets of the mail client GUI. If= a=20 webmail or desktop mail client is used, then the language settings (on = the=20 webmail server or local PC) come into play. One of my accounts has GB settings, hence the 'bin' folder. The other = appears=20 to have US settings, hence the 'trash' folder.=20 > Or maybe wastebin in "empty wastebin" is a simple common noun whereas= > the folder called "Trash" is a proper noun. >=20 > KDE widgets in my experience often have oddities like this. >=20 > If it's something like that, you may have to find the file containing= > display strings and change it there This may be a bit drastic. In my experience changing locale on the loc= al=20 client, or the remote webmail server if one exists sorts this out. Using local Vs server-side subscriptions on Kmail may affect the outcom= e=20 between different clients. =2D-=20 Regards, Mick --nextPart2737188.QZ2GZ19PhL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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