Re: [gentoo-user] world upgrade a mess, need some advise

[Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com>]

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On Wednesday, 3 July 2024 01:34:12 BST Dale wrote:
> Eli Schwartz wrote:
> > On 7/2/24 7:33 PM, Dale wrote:
> >> What I wish, emerge would spit the information out after it completes
> >> instead of putting fairly important info in some log files somewhere for
> >> a person to go dig and find.  It already tells us we should run
> >> --depclean.  Why can't it tell us when we need to run some python tool,
> >> perl or anything else as well that has been triggered.  I've never seen
> >> emerge tell me to run anything but --depclean or preserved rebuild and
> >> to be honest, if a package isn't used, it likely doesn't hurt anything
> >> that it is still installed.  It's just cruft left behind.  Having a
> >> broken python, perl or some other important package should give us a
> >> notice at the end.  That to me would be more important than running
> >> -depclean.  Running preserved rebuild is important tho.
> >> 
> >> One thing about it, if it doesn't need to fix anything, I guess it does
> >> nothing.  Might upset a few electrons while checking is all.  ;-)
> > 
> > ... but it already does exactly this?
> > 
> > When a package emits a warning in the middle of 50 other packages being
> > compiled and installed... portage collects warnings and repeats them at
> > the end for you.
> > 
> > It doesn't matter because the package manager already rebuilds pretty
> > much all perl modules. Running perl-cleaner is advised "in case portage
> > missed something" which probably means "it wasn't part of @world".
> 
> All I've ever seen is --depclean and preserved rebuild.  I don't recall
> ever seeing anything else.  If a package fails, then it tacks the log
> file on the end, sometimes of multiple packages.  To be honest tho, if
> it fails, most of the time that isn't useful either.  Usually the actual
> error is way up somewhere.  I've never seen anything about perl, python
> or that sort of thing before. 
> 
> It could be that my emerge options are good enough that it doesn't
> trigger any of those.  When I had to run perl cleaner a while back tho,
> I wish emerge had gave me a hint that it needed to be run if it couldn't
> fix it itself.  Then again, it may not have known about it either. 
> 
> I plan to run it and if it does nothing, at least then I know my system
> is set up correctly. It's better than not doing it and having weird
> problems that are hard to figure out the cause of. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

When perl itself is updated emerge let's you know to run perl-cleaner with a 
message at the end.

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