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charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from 5.14 to 6.0 version Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 19:26:30 +0000 Message-ID: <1882118.taCxCBeP46@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Monday, 21 November 2022 18:12:41 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:50:14 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2022-11-21, Michael wrote: > >> > On Monday, 21 November 2022 16:11:13 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > >> >> I did have to give up the option of having multiple X11 > >> >> screens. The proprietary NVidia driver supported multiple screens, > >> >> but the drivers for built-in Intel and Radeon drivers don't seem > >> >> to. > >> > > >> > AMD APUs with embedded radeon graphics work fine here with two > >> > monitors (DVI + HDMI ports). > >> > >> Yes, multiple montors work fine with both Intel and Radeon embedded > >> graphics with Xorg drivers. > >> > >> It's multiple X11 screens that isn't supported. An X11 screen is the > >> entity that's managed by single window manager and comprises what's > >> usually called "a desktop". A screen can include multiple monitors. > >> > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/multihead#Separate_screens > > > > You're right, I thought you meant two different monitors in Xinerama > > style. I didn't know anyone who still uses separate displays > > (screens) these days. > > I found it very helpful when I dealing with interruptions (which is > about 50% of a typical day). I could flip one of the screens to a new > virtual desktop (while leaving my email and web browser as-is on the > other screen), deal with the interruption, then flip that screen back > to the desktop containing whatever I was origininally working on. > > My office setup had three screens, each with four virtual desktops. > > When using multiple screens, you develop the habit of using one screen > for common, always-on stuff (e.g. email, web browser) and the other > screen(s) for working on code (or whatever). I found Enlightenment to be most versatile in this respect. Unlike say Plasma, which has two monitors locked on the same virtual desktop and when you switch to another virtual desktop *both* monitors flip over, in Enlightenment each monitor can switch to a different virtual desktop independently. Like you, I keep always-on stuff on the left monitor, while switching between different virtual desktops on the right monitor. > There are two main drawbacks to the multiple-screen setup: > > * You can't drag a window from one screen to the other. With the > monitor sizes that are common now, that's not as big an annoyance > as it used to be. With Enlightenment you can move windows across monitors, irrespective of the virtual desktop each monitor displays. > * There are a few brain-dead (but vital) applications (e.g. Chrome) > that refuse to allow a user to run either multiple instances of the > application or allow windows on multiple screens (or X > servers). I'm a bit baffled by that restriction, but I'm sure it > allowed the developers to take some shortcut that saved 12 bytes of > data and 10 or 15 lines of code (out of many hundreds of megabytes > of occupied RAM and millions lines of code). > > That said, you're right: using mulitple screens is no longer common. > It's not even supported by many desktops these days. I switched from > XFCE to openbox when XFCE dropped support for multiple screens. > > -- > Grant --nextPart1811002.atdPhlSkOF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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