From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDmgi-0000fo-GK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67DFBE0C81; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9876EE0C75 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3971565876 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.974 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.975, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rIOlwn7d86nr for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658E465759 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JDmg6-0005Kv-BW for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:02 +0000 Received: from 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch ([84.72.87.192]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:02 +0000 Received: from michael.schmarck by 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:10:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Schmarck Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:07:14 +0100 Message-ID: <1881946.8O6Z23Hovg@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <3902701.BmRSot1XaP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 84-72-87-192.dclient.hispeed.ch User-Agent: KNode/0.10.5 Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 2f256b3c-3131-4691-99f2-b87e70140d95 X-Archives-Hash: 830508e74f07751c00eec46c1394c718 =C2=B7 Galevsky : > On Jan 11, 2008 8:08 PM, Michael Schmarck > wrote: >> > GRML ? Knoppix ? other LiveCD ? What for, man ? >> >> Oh, quite easy - to install Gentoo. That way, the knowledge of experts >> in creating live CDs is leveraged. NIH is not a good point of view, if >> you ask me. >> >> > Using extra rescue >> > systems is a liberty, of course, but why should it be a must ? I >> >> Easy - to make use of expert knowledge. To save resources, as that's >> obviously a scarcity in Gentoo. >=20 > Not sure that in the whole Gentoo community we cannot find someone not > interested in dev stuff but okay to build CD releases... Well, it seems that such a person could not be found, if you take into consideration that the Install CD is somewhat old by now. > I can=20 > understand the understaffed argument, but in that case don't tell me > that install CD is bad, tell me Gentoo has no resource for, but the > debate is "does Gentoo need install CD or not ?". Well, I do think, that a "suboptimal" install CD is indeed bad. A non-existant install CD would be better, as far as I'm concerned. >> > see no gain in downloading and burning one more system... >> >> Uhm? That doesn't make sense. Downloading GRML is no worse than >> downloading a Gentoo Live CD. >=20 > Yes it is. Portage is not included, =20 So? The portage tree isn't that big. Only 140m, or so. > you depend on other systems that=20 > don't mind about Gentoo needs=20 They don't need to. They just "have to" provide a way to boot a system and offer a way to chroot. Michael Schmarck --=20 Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll invite himself over for dinner. -- Calvin Keegan --=20 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list