From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SI0Wo-0003Lm-3r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:36:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D75CE0D76; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF2BE0D53 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so962754bkw.40 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:33:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=O+X24Rq5/IdLDvGINphe4GxRYrtGYDIcClNIHS/irnw=; b=QvWKjGgaZPDKpaVC3sFcKzVatVN2ypyxZdqwObtYPKna975tCFluazKO4B/MKhTLG6 UI/k+wVW5nMEwEPT2MhjNmoot2pAWASa8xKudnDUsvZ5weU017UvRyxG7rObeCkPtKxR wTvBmvU+4vUvpp/BcAtilRN3kvs78fER/2+N+6UeCTccuAW+Ohb1hA2e1O2rIm0Itin0 FrIytodaqpB/tL1xFV1ueKzSvLzscOoT1O2UhtFhVsr359eR0JGTLvD2YA6TIHr9hdqY FVmAkJ4LL0GSHUkfQW2KhvifUgO5SEU9lFI6kh/a47UOy8ARFSza7bZv+wEEd5xYA1ui ceJw== Received: by 10.204.9.198 with SMTP id m6mr5808312bkm.38.1334162026262; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC60C8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.12.140]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gw19sm5917025bkc.8.2012.04.11.09.33.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:33:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers? Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: <1859025.kiXZoeeayD@energy> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.2 (Linux/3.0.27; KDE/4.8.2; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20120410112621.GA10304@waltdnes.org> <20120411061135.GA11539@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: de0a641a-85ee-415d-a39b-4af2b62b0bae X-Archives-Hash: 6c4b863a5cc126f27aa90072240f322c Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 13:51:28 schrieb Pandu Poluan: > On Apr 11, 2012 1:15 PM, "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote > > > > > I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short > > > of ripping most all the guts out and starting again). I know the > > > industry has currently settled on PCIe, but haven't bus speeds > > > increased in the last 4 years? Are all the latest cards compatible > > > with your Dell? If not, then you'll probably end up buying an older > > > model, and then that will be sub-optimal when you want to upgrade > > > your motherboard in a year's time. > > > > I've posted a snapshot of the Dell's internals on my ISP's personal > > > > webspace at http://clients.teksavvy.com/~walterdnes/misc/dell2.jpg Is > > the long black slot PCIe? What's the short black slot? > > The long black slot looks like PCIe. To be precise, PCIe x16. The short > black slot is PCIe x1, (originally) meant for low-bandwidth devices like a > fax modem. oh so wrong. Even a single PCIe lane is faster than an entire PCI bus. More like SATA controllers, usb-3.0 controllers, high end sound cards. For slow crap you have usb. > > For games with huge 3D textures, absolutely. For video playback, not so > much. > em, just compare a 1080p with amd+working va-api backend in vlc and without. Huge difference. > But the main point would be that the newest graphics cards are all released > in PCIe version only, and future mobos will all support PCIe, so it's a > future-safe investment. and all current. Really, can you even get agp based boards anymore? agp is dead. PCI is as good as dead... , -- #163933