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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 00:10:54 +0000 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland side-effect? 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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 00:10:54 +0000 Message-ID: <1856639.yKVeVyVuyW@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <7f8fff64-0913-8ecc-d212-9aca2ea44e31@youngman.org.uk> References: <2059993.Icojqenx9y@lenovo.localdomain> <7f8fff64-0913-8ecc-d212-9aca2ea44e31@youngman.org.uk> On Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:01:09 GMT antlists wrote: > On 27/12/2020 18:51, Michael wrote: > > Restarting the desktop using Xorg does NOT fix this problem. Otherwise, > > both Plasma on Wayland and Xorg work fine - except the clipboard does not > > work on Wayland (middle click won't paste selected text on another > > window). > > This sounds to me like a side-effect of Wayland security. I don't really > know anything about it, but I get the impression that talking between > windows is an unsolved security problem. > > Of course, it could be it's a solved problem, but you've hit a glitch... > > Cheers, > Wol Yes, the clipboard issue is due to the isolation between application windows for security reasons. It should also stop keyloggers having a go at my typing. Annoying nonetheless, I hadn't realised how much I use the middle- click clipboard feature! Selecting text with the mouse, then using right- click Copy (or Ctrl+c) and right-click Paste (Ctrl+v) works, as a long winded alternative. I wonder if the message preview pane problem in Kmail is also caused by the same wayland window isolation? Hmm ... --nextPart2016347.OBFZWjSADL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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