From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEkAY-0001VC-Ek for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:41:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48C54E0AA9; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40EFE09A2 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3340465AEF for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.441, BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jm2R8n4fwFZf for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C5865AD5 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JEk9C-0002vU-An for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:02 +0000 Received: from zy-rieter.cyberlink.ch ([212.55.215.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:02 +0000 Received: from michael.schmarck by zy-rieter.cyberlink.ch with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:40:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Schmarck Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: License issues [was:Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:39:09 +0100 Organization: =?UTF-8?B?xYI=?= Message-ID: <18489611.2lsy5p3Oja@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> References: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr> <200801141911.02433.shrdlu@unlimitedmail.org> <200801142143.28132.shrdlu@unlimitedmail.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: zy-rieter.cyberlink.ch User-Agent: KNode/0.10.5 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 0f6b571c-49a5-4393-a614-e417fb63fb46 X-Archives-Hash: 8d0cf7ff09e47071befd91eafac3b012 James wrote: > Etaoin Shrdlu unlimitedmail.org> writes: > > >> What you're saying here is not a secret, in fact these are all more or >> less well-known facts. Yes, they probably did violate some open source >> license. However, I don't see how having had closed source products >> would have prevented them from doing what they wanted to do anyway. >> And furthermore, what does all this have to do with "making money with >> open source"? > > > I just do not see the harm in letting a small (sub 1 million dollar > company) build a product and not provide any details or what they did or > how they did it. Why should they be allowed to gain a profit from something, that the FLOSS community made, without giving anything back at all (and if it is just source code in an uncommented/undocumented fashion)? > In the end, their success is more likely related Why should somebody care, if they are successful? > The GPL goes a long way to discouraging/preventing many of the serfs > from ever trying.... IMHO. I believe that the GPL is the spawn of satan. Absolutely disagree. I think the GPL is good the way it is. > I think the 'serfs' (the greater gentoo community) would be better > off with a BSD style license related to Gentoo technologies and > still use GPL software, as the individual chooses. I don't think so. Michael -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list