From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9D8138CD3 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 07:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 812FFE0937; Thu, 28 May 2015 07:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0200.smtp25.com (mail0200.smtp25.com [174.37.170.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E8D3E08BF for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 07:39:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.9/8.14.8) with ESMTP id t4S7dpBs001824 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 03:39:51 -0400 From: covici@ccs.covici.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem In-reply-to: <5566BFF9.7040004@xunil.at> References: <28995.1432789799@ccs.covici.com> <30995.1432793754@ccs.covici.com> <5566BFF9.7040004@xunil.at> Comments: In-reply-to "Stefan G. Weichinger" message dated "Thu, 28 May 2015 09:12:57 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.5; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1822.1432798791.1@ccs.covici.com> Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 03:39:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1823.1432798791@ccs.covici.com> X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: s-out-001.smtp25.com-t4S7dqSu028504 X-Archives-Salt: ac66343b-9789-4bad-a935-0af056fe9b08 X-Archives-Hash: 7e80839c24a160dd4f6596b0e24a8508 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2015-05-28 um 08:15 schrieb covici@ccs.covici.com: > > > Thanks for your quick reply, but I do have rd.shell=1, but it did not > > drop to a shell,it just hung, so I could not do journalctl or anything > > -- the nearest break point was pre-initqueue which was maybe too early > > and the next one is pre-mount which it never got to. Unfortunately, I > > was in a position where I could not use an older kernel, because the > > older ones didn't have the configs to read gui type partitions-- I > > always keep several kernels around normally, but this was one of those > > transitional times when I was stuck. So do I need emergency aswell as > > rd.shell andis there any way to get a shell when the system appearsto > > be in some kind of a loop, like calling setl over andover again? > > > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ ? > > Do you try to boot into rescue.target? > > Why not use a live-cd, boot, mount, chroot and get on there? > > You can read the journal of your failing installation via the > journalctl-binary of your booted live-system (I assume fedora live-media > boots with systemd ... dunno ad hoc which one to use) > No, the journal is gone, it was only in /run which is on a tmpfs file system. I can boot from a cd all day long, but it would not help one bit. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com