From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QwJpq-000500-FU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:14:02 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26CF021C3F2; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B73521C290 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so1565219wyg.40 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=OaEPE26to1P7b/273oUO/lNJ+IxTXh76bSO7KlOrsJw=; b=P8jbYGFiTWtSfm6rcXyG3hLgXjcxrcFHXL4NhS75U3Sx6wrWPr1zFgr/1YRcaRKed7 LOXenBy5J4caOQtxxd79NAkOMMaOeZVq8VZwl/kkchvAa4OL6cJOav7wzA6RbumWZ2Da pLo/zHrMSOXSyzn441iCQ7YUPocmLVIVRtY5Q= Received: by 10.216.27.145 with SMTP id e17mr959067wea.31.1314216719428; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-153-55.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.153.55]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fb2sm1128940wbb.28.2011.08.24.13.11.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Akonadi loses mails Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:11:48 +0200 Message-ID: <1804777.EmZhrvXnVp@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.0 (Linux/3.0.3-gentoo; KDE/4.7.0; x86_64; ; ) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0ac1a0566c0102d2c10d952a3eb93edf I am about to get on a damn plane to Germany, find me the entire collection of KDEPIM devs and shoot every last one of those fuckers dead. dead. dead. dead. Then blow up the repo so this POS will never again see the light of day. I'm trying to migrate away from kdepim. Nothing else out there imports KDE folders so I use my usual trick of running a local imap server, dragging mail trees into it and when the new mail client is started, everything is right there. Akonadi/kmail2 silently destroys the mail when you attempt this. I did a few tests, copied small folders, contents of other folders, etc and satisfied myself it all worked nicely. Then dragged and dropped nice big chunks of mail tree into the IMAP folders. The mails appear in the kde view, but THEY ARE NOT ON DISK ANYMORE. What I am seeing is the akonadi cache, and sooner or later that will expire. There was no warning, no dialog, no notification. Just a pile of mail disappeared. Akonadi/nepomuk/kmail/virtuoso/soprano/strigi didn't do it's usual stunt of observing that my mouse pointer had moved and consume 200% of cpu at load 11 for 30 minutes while it reindexed everything. It appears to have just chucked 2GB of pim data away. Need I mention that NOT chucking pim data away is it's primary design goal (or should be). Now finally after 3 years, I understand what all the other ex-KDE users are on about - this is a stinking pile of bloatcrap and a solution to a problem that actually does not exist. To say that I'm pissed off is putting it mildly. Tomorrow morning I will decide if KDE4 itself is to be the next casualty. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com