[gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[João Jerónimo]

Hello.

I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't implement.

Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?

Thanks.

JJ

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[J. Roeleveld]

On 8 July 2014 18:49:19 CEST, "João Jerónimo" <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
>because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install
>NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager
>needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This
>pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn
>doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't
>implement.
>
>Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
>
>Thanks.
>
>JJ

Didn't check the ebuilds, but with what you described. I don't think you can use NetworkManager with uclibc.

Apart from that. With only 256MB memory. I would be reluctant to use tools with large dependencies. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[João Jerónimo]

Em 08/07/2014 21:39, J. Roeleveld escreveu:
> On 8 July 2014 18:49:19 CEST, "João Jerónimo" <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
>> because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install
>> NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager
>> needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This
>> pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn
>> doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't
>> implement.
>>
>> Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
> Didn't check the ebuilds, but with what you described. I don't think you can use NetworkManager with uclibc.
>
> Apart from that. With only 256MB memory. I would be reluctant to use tools with large dependencies.
Thanks.
But... That sucks...
Can you tell me if there is an alternative to NetworkManager?
Or else, can wpa_supplicant connect to networks that are not statically 
configured in config files?

JJ

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[Randy Westlund]

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On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 11:58:45PM +0100, João Jerónimo wrote:
> Can you tell me if there is an alternative to NetworkManager?
> Or else, can wpa_supplicant connect to networks that are not statically 
> configured in config files?
> 
> JJ

I like wicd, but I have no idea whether it will work with uclibc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[microcai]

2014-07-09 0:49 GMT+08:00 João Jerónimo <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com>:
> Hello.
>
> I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
> because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install

glibc is fine with 256M, trying to use uclibc does not magically
reduce the memory footprint.


> NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager needs
> 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This pulls-in
> policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn doesn't
> compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't implement.
>
> Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
>

consolekit is not maintained anymore. try use systemd instead.

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[J. Roeleveld]

On Wednesday, July 09, 2014 08:03:55 AM microcai wrote:
> 2014-07-09 0:49 GMT+08:00 João Jerónimo <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com>:
> > Hello.
> > 
> > I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
> > because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install
> 
> glibc is fine with 256M, trying to use uclibc does not magically
> reduce the memory footprint.
> 
> > NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager needs
> > 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This pulls-in
> > policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn doesn't
> > compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't implement.
> > 
> > Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
> 
> consolekit is not maintained anymore. try use systemd instead.

It still works, please don't turn this into another "You have to switch to 
systemd" thread.

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Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[Dimitrios Semitsoglou-Tsiapos]

On 09/07/14 01:58, João Jerónimo wrote:
> 
> Em 08/07/2014 21:39, J. Roeleveld escreveu:
>> On 8 July 2014 18:49:19 CEST, "João Jerónimo" <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
>>> because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install
>>> NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager
>>> needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This
>>> pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn
>>> doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't
>>> implement.
>>>
>>> Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
>> Didn't check the ebuilds, but with what you described. I don't think you can
>> use NetworkManager with uclibc.
>>
>> Apart from that. With only 256MB memory. I would be reluctant to use tools
>> with large dependencies.
> Thanks.
> But... That sucks...
> Can you tell me if there is an alternative to NetworkManager?
> Or else, can wpa_supplicant connect to networks that are not statically
> configured in config files?
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
wpa_supplicant[qt4] has an interface, wpa_gui. To use it, add yourself to the
wheel group (or any relevant group of your choice) and prepend the following
lines in your /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file:

ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=wheel
update_config=1

After logging in and out you should be able to easily add and connect to any
network via wpa_gui. What you do not get to change via that interface is how
the IP address is resolved, but that should not be an issue if you are OK with
using DHCP.

Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 09 Jul 2014 07:21:50 Dimitrios Semitsoglou-Tsiapos wrote:
> On 09/07/14 01:58, João Jerónimo wrote:
> > Em 08/07/2014 21:39, J. Roeleveld escreveu:
> >> On 8 July 2014 18:49:19 CEST, "João Jerónimo"
> >> <joao.jeronimo.89@gmail.com>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc
> >>> because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM). I'm currently trying to install
> >>> NetworkManager, but I ran into a problem, which is: NetworkManager
> >>> needs 'policykit' USE flag to be applyed to consolekit package. This
> >>> pulls-in policykit package as a dependency of consolekit, which in turn
> >>> doesn't compile because it calls some funcions that uclibc doesn't
> >>> implement.
> >>> 
> >>> Can't I install networkmanager in uclibc systems, then?
> >> 
> >> Didn't check the ebuilds, but with what you described. I don't think you
> >> can use NetworkManager with uclibc.
> >> 
> >> Apart from that. With only 256MB memory. I would be reluctant to use
> >> tools with large dependencies.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > But... That sucks...
> > Can you tell me if there is an alternative to NetworkManager?
> > Or else, can wpa_supplicant connect to networks that are not statically
> > configured in config files?
> > 
> > JJ
> 
> wpa_supplicant[qt4] has an interface, wpa_gui. To use it, add yourself to
> the wheel group (or any relevant group of your choice) and prepend the
> following lines in your /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file:
> 
> ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
> ctrl_interface_group=wheel
> update_config=1
> 
> After logging in and out you should be able to easily add and connect to
> any network via wpa_gui. What you do not get to change via that interface
> is how the IP address is resolved, but that should not be an issue if you
> are OK with using DHCP.


There is also wpa_cli, if a GUI is not required.

Another (simpler) network manager to have a look at is connmanager.

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Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Networkmanager on uclibc Gentoo system x86

[James]

João Jerónimo <joao.jeronimo.89 <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Hello.
> 
> I installed the uclibc stage3 tarball no a x86 machine (I chose uclibc  
> because the PC has only 256 MB of RAM).

Did you use one of these to install your system?

http://mirror.as24220.net/pub/gentoo/experimental/x86/uclibc/

Also note:

 The i586 CPU (family 5) but it has almost everything that a i686 CPU
(family 6) has. The only CPU instruction that is missing is the NOPL or NOP
Long (means no operation). Now there is a patch available that simulate the
missing instruction in the kernel so that the user space don't know that the
instruction is missing. The program can use the instruction as if there is
nothing missing instead of crashing. The advantage is, the programs that are
compiled for i686 can run on the i586 CPU with this modified Kernel. In
Debian there is also a special optimized C Lib version for i686 CPU's (with
uses cmov instructions). This optimized version of the library works with
the modified Kernel too. For more info's go to 

http://notes.osuv.de/doku.php?id=geode.

hth,
James